IsaacTheFossilMan Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Hello! I saw a very nice fossil fish with both halves up on auction. It's not raising too many red flags for me, but unfortunately, the seller doesn't have much information; but I did manage to glean all that I could, as well as some close-ups. They say their Aunt gave it to them, and she claimed to have collected it from Brazil. Unfortunately she also worked on cruise ships so it could be from anywhere, they pointed out. The matrix reminds me of the kemkem beds, but, I could be wrong. Here are some photos: and, for 10 points, I'd like you to give me the ID, and whether it's real or not It does look a bit "pristine" to me, though, with the shape being exactly what we'd expect a fish to look like, without any sort of imperfections... ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Just racked my brains, it seems to be reminiscent of Paraelops. Could be thus from the Santana Group, north-eastern Brazil. Early Cretaceous? That might explain why I thought kemkem. If it is indeed from Brazil, I should steer clear, with the illegal fossil trade, right? Edited October 27, 2021 by IsaacTheFossilMan ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 This is from the Romualdo Formation, Araripe Basin, Santana Group in Brazil - Early Cretaceous in age. I think it is likely to be Tharrias araripes. Note that the outline of the fish has been carved to make it stand out better. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, Fossildude19 said: This is from the Romualdo Formation, Araripe Basin, Santana Group in Brazil - Early Cretaceous in age. I think it is likely to be Tharrias araripes. Note that the outline of the fish has been carved to make it stand out better. Alright; I got the group ID! And the fact it was carved! I'm getting better at this! The Brazilian fossil trade forbids sale of such specimens, correct? ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, IsaacTheFossilMan said: Alright; I got the group ID! And the fact it was carved! I'm getting better at this! The Brazilian fossil trade forbids sale of such specimens, correct? It does now, but a lot of these were exported pre-ban. So long as it isn't coming from Brazil, it is likely from an older collection. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, Fossildude19 said: It does now, but a lot of these were exported pre-ban. So long as it isn't coming from Brazil, it is likely from an older collection. Alright, thank you. I will enquire as to the age of when they came into acquirance. Cheers Tim, you have been most helpful! 1 ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Happy to help, Isaac. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just a bit of closure here, Tim. @Fossildude19 the specimen was collected in the 1950s! 1 ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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