ChristineR Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) The specimen was found at Ernst Quarries, Temblor formation, round mountain silt. This reminds me of a ray plate except the plate is somewhat wedge shaped, with very thin teeth (?). One longer “tooth” remains in the matrix. Sorry I couldn’t clean it up better, while attempting to do so, it popped out of the matrix. I hope to glue it back in place to complete the prep, but the risk of further damage may change my mind. This prep has revealed multiple specimens, changing the plan and approach again and again. Nice problem to have,right? The last photo shows one of three larger specimens in the original matrix. I will seek additional IDs and prep advice in separate posts. Edited November 3, 2021 by ChristineR Blurry pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 These photos are much too blurry to make out much detail at all. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: 25 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: These photos are much too blurry to make out much detail at all. Thank you, and I'm sorry, I agree! They looked so much clearer on my small phone screen. (red faced emoji) I will post new pictures this evening. 24 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: These photos are much too blurry to make out much detail at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 hours ago, ChristineR said: I will seek additional IDs and prep advice in separate posts. seal phalange 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, hemipristis said: seal phalange Thank you. I’m wondering if it is possible to ID seal phalanx to species, if so, will I need to remove the specimen from the matrix? The only resource I can think of is the society of paleontology. I believe only three seals are described from Round Mountain Silt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 I've added better photos, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemipristis Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, ChristineR said: Thank you. I’m wondering if it is possible to ID seal phalanx to species, if so, will I need to remove the specimen from the matrix? The only resource I can think of is the society of paleontology. I believe only three seals are described from Round Mountain Silt. Let's see if someone here on the forum has either an ID or can put you in touch with someone. One idea is to reach out to the Buena Vista Museum of Natural History in Bakersfield. Link: https://www.buenavistamuseum.org 'Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.' George Santayana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Sounds right up Bobbie’s alley. @Boesse 1 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 16 hours ago, hemipristis said: Let's see if someone here on the forum has either an ID or can put you in touch with someone. One idea is to reach out to the Buena Vista Museum of Natural History in Bakersfield. Link: https://www.buenavistamuseum.org Thank you! I will reach out to them. I was ables to clean some of the "plate", which only raised more questions. I appreciate your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1) That's a Myliobatis median tooth fragment, it seems. 2) It is generally not possible to identify isolated pinniped phalanges. That being said, it is most likely Allodesmus, the most common pinniped in the assemblage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boesse said: 1) That's a Myliobatis median tooth fragment, it seems. 2) It is generally not possible to identify isolated pinniped phalanges. That being said, it is most likely Allodesmus, the most common pinniped in the assemblage. Thank you @Boesse! The small "teeth" threw me off. In your opinion, are these interlocking ridges which hold the teeth together? I still can't grasp the image or orientation. Edited November 4, 2021 by ChristineR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The comb-like structure are the roots of the tooth that lock the teeth into the cartilaginous parts of the jaw! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristineR Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, Boesse said: The comb-like structure are the roots of the tooth that lock the teeth into the cartilaginous parts of the jaw! Thank you, again. I am amazed at the preservation found at STH. Ray plates are typically an easy ID with the typical preservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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