fossil_lover_2277 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 This past summer I found this bone at the Miocene Pungo River dig pits of the Aurora Fossil Museum. The bone matches the shape of the end of a crocodile pubis from what I have seen online. Crocodile material isn’t common from there, but I know it’s occasionally found. Does this look like a correct ID? The bone doesn’t match anything cetacean that I’m aware of, too thin to be a limb bone or rib head, not the right shape for a phalanges or vertebral process as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMert Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Interesting. Also reminds me of a worn plesiosaur propodial 2 My sites & reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil_lover_2277 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, RuMert said: Interesting. Also reminds me of a worn plesiosaur propodial Yea too bad it’s not Cretaceous or I’d be jumping for joy rn lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I would guess this is a broken process from a cetacean vertebra. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 hours ago, RuMert said: Interesting. Also reminds me of a worn plesiosaur propodial Though I see where you're coming from, this piece would be too overall flat for a plesiosaur propodial, not to mention it thickens at the end that, in a true propodial, would actually be the thinnest one. Much rather, I'd say, it reminds me of a mosasaur phalanx... Actually, I think it'd be rather hard to say what this could be. Sure, there are certain similarities with crocodile pubic bones. However, those would remain flat over the entire surface of the bone, rather than what we see at the preserved end of this one. Cetacean vertebral process therefore sounds more likely to me, although the flare and thickening don't seem to be very common features in modern cetaceans (source - observe E.g. versus the rest): May be either @caterpillar or @Boesse would be able to give us some conclusive insights 'There's nothing like millions of years of really frustrating trial and error to give a species moral fibre and, in some cases, backbone' -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterpillar Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think it isn't croc. Cetacea is a good choice 1 http://www.paleotheque.fr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil_lover_2277 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Al Dente said: I would guess this is a broken process from a cetacean vertebra. 6 hours ago, pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon said: Though I see where you're coming from, this piece would be too overall flat for a plesiosaur propodial, not to mention it thickens at the end that, in a true propodial, would actually be the thinnest one. Much rather, I'd say, it reminds me of a mosasaur phalanx... Actually, I think it'd be rather hard to say what this could be. Sure, there are certain similarities with crocodile pubic bones. However, those would remain flat over the entire surface of the bone, rather than what we see at the preserved end of this one. Cetacean vertebral process therefore sounds more likely to me, although the flare and thickening don't seem to be very common features in modern cetaceans (source - observe E.g. versus the rest): May be either @caterpillar or @Boesse would be able to give us some conclusive insights 5 hours ago, caterpillar said: I think it isn't croc. Cetacea is a good choice Thank you all, this clarifies a lot. It appears to be part of a cetacean transverse process then. Definitely would not have guessed that one on my own ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 For comparison: 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Yup. base of a transverse process of a dolphin lumbar vertebra - the wide end is the base. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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