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Peccary maxilla fossil? Kansas River, KS


Denny1st

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I found this maxilla piece on the Kansas River today. I'm thinking it's some sort of pig ancestor, and hoping it's not just an old domestic pig's. But it seems mineralized to me. Also, the teeth are pretty worn so it's hard for me to ID them. I saw this topic

And thought it's too difficult for me to ID based on the worn teeth. But maybe someone else here can help? Please let me know if more photos would be of use as well. Thanks in advance. 

 

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Cropped and contrasted:

 

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13 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

Sorry, Denny, it's not peccary.  It's a domestic pig jaw.  But, welcome to the Forum.

What a bummer. May I ask what was the giveaway to you? Thanks

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1 hour ago, Denny1st said:

What a bummer. May I ask what was the giveaway to you? Thanks

The key was Tim's cropped and contrasted version of the occlusal surface image.  Pig and peccary teeth don't look much alike to me.

 

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36 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

The key was Tim's cropped and contrasted version of the occlusal surface image.  Pig and peccary teeth don't look much alike to me.

 

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I see. I suppose I was overthinking it and trying to count cusps on the teeth, but I'm sure some of it was wishful thinking.... Thanks again. It can be hard to tell the age on Kansas river bones

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3 minutes ago, Denny1st said:

I see. I suppose I was overthinking it and trying to count cusps on the teeth, but I'm sure some of it was wishful thinking.... Thanks again. It can be hard to tell the age on Kansas river bones

Don't fret about it.  Yours was a sophisticated guess -- we more often see a naive guess here.  Keep looking down.

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---Shakespeare, The Tempest

 

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22 hours ago, Denny1st said:

I see. I suppose I was overthinking it and trying to count cusps on the teeth, but I'm sure some of it was wishful thinking.... Thanks again. It can be hard to tell the age on Kansas river bones

So far over 15 years, I only have a single Peccary molar,  which I treasure.

Many times, I would find teeth that looked like Peccary,  but Harry would set me straight. One of those times,  I searched the Internet,  so I could work on "seeing"  what Harry sees.

I found this,  it is a Pleistocene Peccary maxilla from Florida.

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Like Harry says,  I keep looking down...

 

 

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