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I am opening concretions right now and this one split with a nice little tap. It looks like flora, but I don’t recall this piece. If it was from a later time period I would say it was a pretty feather lol. Any help would be appreciated.

 

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Thanks Connor, I really liked it too. So far the rest is garbage, don’t know if I will make a post today.

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1 hour ago, connorp said:

I’m thinking Rhacophyllum, maybe R. molle. Very nice piece. 

 

I'm not convinced. I see what appear to be pinnules, and not just the ones at the edge of the base but also in parts of the distal portions of the "plume". This makes me wonder if this is something extremely rare. I've never seen anything like this.

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41 minutes ago, Nimravis said:

Thanks Connor, I really liked it too. So far the rest is garbage, don’t know if I will make a post today.

 

Yes Ralph. However, what you consider "garbage" causes others who wish they could collect MC to drool. Nice find. I'm eagerly awaiting Jack's input on this one. I hope he takes a look.

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1 hour ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

the "plume"

That is why it looks like a feather, too bad birds were not around then.

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3 hours ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

 

I'm not convinced. I see what appear to be pinnules, and not just the ones at the edge of the base but also in parts of the distal portions of the "plume". This makes me wonder if this is something extremely rare. I've never seen anything like this.

Mark, I agree its got a bit of a different appearance--I wonder if its maybe even some strange fertile/spore/pollen structure. Those elliptical structures look to be a mm or less in size and there are many rows of them...Hoping Jack or RC get a chance to look and respond. good eyes...

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Regards, Chris 

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Here are a couple more pics of each side. Scale on ruler is in mm.

 

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Very interesting! In my opinion this is a fertile example of Rhacophyllum molle. This has not been previously published on, or observed, as far as I'm aware. It makes sense that there should be fertile examples of this plant. The leaf-like structures are fertile structures, and may be either seeds or sporangia. This would take a little luck and and closer examination to determine. At this point since there is an odd pattern seen on several may be a clue, and leaning me to think they are sporangia. 

 

Hope this helps,

Jack

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1 hour ago, fiddlehead said:

Very interesting! In my opinion this is a fertile example of Rhacophyllum molle. This has not been previously published on, or observed, as far as I'm aware. It makes sense that there should be fertile examples of this plant. The leaf-like structures are fertile structures, and may be either seeds or sporangia. This would take a little luck and and closer examination to determine. At this point since there is an odd pattern seen on several may be a clue, and leaning me to think they are sporangia. 

 

Hope this helps,

Jack

Jack, Thank you for the help on this piece, it is always appreciated.

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18 hours ago, connorp said:

I’m thinking Rhacophyllum, maybe R. molle. Very nice piece. 

Jack agrees with you on the Id. Thanks again.

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Congratulations on a rare and interesting find.

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21 hours ago, Nimravis said:

I am opening concretions right now and this one split with a nice little tap. It looks like flora, but I don’t recall this piece. If it was from a later time period I would say it was a pretty feather lol. Any help would be appreciated.

 

Congratulations on a rare and interesting find. You can still get it in for fossil of the month.

 

 

Mark.

 

Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them!

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1 hour ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

 

Congratulations on a rare and interesting find. You can still get it in for fossil of the month.

I already put up the Octomedusa and will see how that goes.

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Mentioned in the other thread I thought this might be a piece of shark, but there are really nice pinules in the closeups so I've gotta agree this is plant.

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19 hours ago, Plantguy said:

I wonder if its maybe even some strange fertile/spore/pollen structure.

Chris- thanks again, spot on.

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3 hours ago, Nimravis said:

I already put up the Octomedusa and will see how that goes.

 

You're allowed two per category. I think this is better than jelly!

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3 minutes ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

 

You're allowed two per category. I think this is better than jelly!

I might do it.

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1 minute ago, Nimravis said:

I might do it.

 

Don't let yourself regret not trying!

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4 hours ago, Plantguy said:

Ralph, Awesome awesome find!

Regards, Chris 

Thank you

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I am adding a couple close up pics with the new macro lens for my phone’s camera.

 

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Good result.

 

Coco

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