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Bone Valley Fossils from Bowling Green, FL


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These 2 Fossils, with matrix attached; came out of a fossil rich pile of soil, at the Bone Valley Fossil Farm.  This soil contained Megalodon Shark Teeth, Hemipristis Serra Shark Teeth, Dugong Rib Bones, etc.  These 2 Fossils, were the only ones I found; which were these colors.  (The Dugong Bones were White, and the Shark Teeth had Black Enamel and Greyish White Roots.)

 

I believe both of these, to be Mammal Teeth.  What say you?

 

1st Specimen:

 

 

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Whale has a core of Dentine and a covering of cementum.

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Compare your Specimen 1 , 3rd photo to these photos of Florida Kogiopsis .sp

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I agree with Jack - They are both whale teeth - I have 1 myself from the same location that's the same color! Kogiopsis sp. indeed!

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Fossils? I dig it. :meg:

 

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3 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Whale has a core of Dentine and a covering of cementum.

WhaleToothComposition.JPG.85d1391ebc6f85928b56049769ba5e74.JPG

 

Compare your Specimen 1 , 3rd photo to these photos of Florida Kogiopsis .sp

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Thank you sir.

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56 minutes ago, Meganeura said:

I agree with Jack - They are both whale teeth - I have 1 myself from the same location that's the same color! Kogiopsis sp. indeed!

Thank you sir.

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4 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

Whale has a core of Dentine and a covering of cementum.

WhaleToothComposition.JPG.85d1391ebc6f85928b56049769ba5e74.JPG

 

Compare your Specimen 1 , 3rd photo to these photos of Florida Kogiopsis .sp

IMG_0869BVbrownWhaleCrop.jpg.79f7eb751d406e84ee277d11b05a1b16.jpgIMG_0938cr.jpg.66d655c73b9b51e4120927699275f81e.jpg

I also found the item on the bottom right, which I believe to be a Whale Ear Bone?  All of these specimens, were found in the same dirt pile; for what it's worth.

 

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2 minutes ago, Rock Hound said:

I also found the item on the bottom right, which I believe to be a Whale Ear Bone?  All of these specimens, were found in the same dirt pile; for what it's worth.

That is a whale Tympanic Bulla...might be interesting to try to identify which whale...Measurements,  photo of other side ?

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1 hour ago, Shellseeker said:

That is a whale Tympanic Bulla...might be interesting to try to identify which whale...Measurements,  photo of other side ?

Thank you, for your insight.  The total length, is a little over 4 cm.

 

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19 hours ago, Rock Hound said:

Thank you, for your insight.  The total length, is a little over 4 cm.

So, let's start a process to try to determine a likely ID for your Bulla.  You found it in Florida.. We are interested in finding a similar Bulla,  about the same size on the Internet, in this fossil forum, and in Natural  Museums (University of Florida) that keep examples of marine mammal Bullas..

Here is a Thread that discusses marine mammal Bullas.  There are lots of them in TFF.

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/129839-tympanic-bulla/

You can find many of these by a google search "bulla site:www.thefossilforum.com"  and looking  at the IMAGES tab..

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Here are both earbones of a Bottlenose Dolphin from the UF Florida Fossil record.  The top is a Periotic/Petrosal and the bottom is the Bulla.

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You almost never find them together like the above photos,   Here is a Bulla that I found recently ,

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It is 37 mm,  smaller than the one you have. and I think yours in just a little bit broken , maybe full size would be 45 mm.

Here is a photo of a Bulla, once again found in Florida by Harry Pristis,  a little over 59 mm

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It was Identified in this thread..

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/71998-help-with-a-whale-fossil/

 

I am curious on whether your Bulla worn and slightly broken, can be identified by finding a close match from a Florida Bulla found by others..  It will take some time and searching... Jack

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3 hours ago, Shellseeker said:

So, let's start a process to try to determine a likely ID for your Bulla.  You found it in Florida.. We are interested in finding a similar Bulla,  about the same size on the Internet, in this fossil forum, and in Natural  Museums (University of Florida) that keep examples of marine mammal Bullas..

Here is a Thread that discusses marine mammal Bullas.  There are lots of them in TFF.

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/129839-tympanic-bulla/

You can find many of these by a google search "bulla site:www.thefossilforum.com"  and looking  at the IMAGES tab..

871972268_GoogleSearch.JPG.70c8821c104ba1a8d667fc8970f56534.JPG

 

Here are both earbones of a Bottlenose Dolphin from the UF Florida Fossil record.  The top is a Periotic/Petrosal and the bottom is the Bulla.

Bottlenose-dolphin-Tursiops-truncatus-auditory-periotic-bulla-FLMNH-25743-768x576.jpg.1e8833f88307c6ca53091644f9b15a45.jpgBottlenose-dolphin-Tursiops-truncatus-auditory-periotic-bulla-view-2-FLMNH-25743-768x576.jpg.3b03844923fc3fd6f28efdf5820b5b5a.jpg

You almost never find them together like the above photos,   Here is a Bulla that I found recently ,

Bulla_MergeText.thumb.jpg.0f49d47e6107b04f777c825de1b2b07c.jpg

Tympanic-bullae-of-MUSM-3944-Eurhinodelphinidae-indet-from-the-early-Miocene-of-the.thumb.png.235ef8aca203e004d7daffbead4ad42e.png

 

It is 37 mm,  smaller than the one you have. and I think yours in just a little bit broken , maybe full size would be 45 mm.

Here is a photo of a Bulla, once again found in Florida by Harry Pristis,  a little over 59 mm

cetotheriid_Herpetocetus.jpg.ce87845df8577016651294b903ae2640.jpg

 

It was Identified in this thread..

http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/71998-help-with-a-whale-fossil/

 

I am curious on whether your Bulla worn and slightly broken, can be identified by finding a close match from a Florida Bulla found by others..  It will take some time and searching... Jack

Thank you sir.

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