Jump to content

Show Us Your Orthocones


Roz

Recommended Posts

I love orthocones but have found very few.. I would love to see everyone

elses.. Mine are from the Pennsylvanian Period.

These are so tiny I didn't know what they were until I viewed with my loupe..

post-13-0-42675600-1372957479_thumb.jpg

post-13-0-27495000-1372957506_thumb.jpg

post-13-0-42831900-1372957535_thumb.jpg

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here are a few. They are Mooreoceras or Pseudorthoceras. All are Pennsylvanian....

Winterset Limestone. The shell is encrusted with algae:

post-6808-0-41076400-1372961212_thumb.jpg

Chanute Formation:

post-6808-0-04393400-1372961210_thumb.jpg

Liberty Memorial Formation:

post-6808-0-69257700-1372961214_thumb.jpg

Edited by Missourian

Context is critical.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice ones! I didn't realize they could get that large..

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's a geodized specimen I picked up last weekend, 6-29-2013.

Orthoconic Cephalopod

Prosser Member, Galena Formation

Ordovician

Southeast Minnesota

post-3840-0-44573000-1372971661_thumb.jpg

And here's my table at MAPS expo with bunch. The very large Endoceras sp. in the back is about 4ft long.

post-3840-0-61804600-1372971649_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just for fun here are some examples of trilobites preserved within orthoconic cephalopods. One possible theory is the trilobites took safe refuge in the empty body chambers of a presumably long-dead host. Complete (non-exuvium) individuals suggest that the exoskeletons were left in-situ by live trilobites. Trilobite Tenement! :P

post-4301-0-10441300-1372976920_thumb.jpg

Davis, R.A., Fraaye, R.H.B., & Holland, C.H. (2001)

Trilobites within nautiloid cephalopods.

Lethaia 34(1):37-45

  • Enjoyed 1

image.png.a84de26dad44fb03836a743755df237c.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's a geodized specimen I picked up last weekend, 6-29-2013.

Orthoconic Cephalopod

Prosser Member, Galena Formation

Ordovician

Southeast Minnesota

attachicon.gifIMG_0595.JPG

And here's my table at MAPS expo with bunch. The very large Endoceras sp. in the back is about 4ft long.

attachicon.gifIMG_0479.JPG

I love geodized specimens of anything! You have some nice ones on your table, Caleb!

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually Roz Endoceras could get 30' long

heres a (smaller) one

attachicon.gifendo.jpg

I had no idea! That's a nice one for your collection.. I wonder why I find so few and they are so

tiny.. I will have to keep looking for ones I can see without a loupe..

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just for fun here are some examples of trilobites preserved within orthoconic cephalopods. One possible theory is the trilobites took safe refuge in the empty body chambers of a presumably long-dead host. Complete (non-exuvium) individuals suggest that the exoskeletons were left in-situ by live trilobites. Trilobite Tenement! :P

attachicon.gifOrthoconic Trilobites .jpg

Davis, R.A., Fraaye, R.H.B., & Holland, C.H. (2001)

Trilobites within nautiloid cephalopods.

Lethaia 34(1):37-45

I hope the rent was fair back then.. :) That's actually very interesting.. :popcorn:

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had no idea! That's a nice one for your collection.. I wonder why I find so few and they are so

tiny.. I will have to keep looking for ones I can see without a loupe..

Two words...Jacks and boro:)

You'll find plenty there you can see without a loupe like Mooreoceras, Brachycycloceras, and Michelinoceras.

Here's part of the flared out body chamber of a Poterioceras, not a true orthocone though because the phragmocone has a slight curve to it which makes it cyrtocone.

post-4419-0-28816400-1373002777_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, I haven't been to Jacksboro in a very long time! I have never

heard of a cyrtocone.. Will do some searching.

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cyrtocone is not so much a thing as a description. One book described cyrtocone as coiling without the whorls touching but the DPS occasional papers book on Jacksboro has it as a shell with any amount of curve. Compare it with orthocone which is straight and serpenticone which is the extreme of "evolute" where the whorls touch without any overlap.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

post-2520-0-89405700-1373311598_thumb.jpgAn Ordovician one cut in half to show the siphuncle.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen

No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go.

" I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes

"can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very cool view, Herb! I love seeing the interior of a fossil.. :popcorn:

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's another polished one. One of the few Orthocones in my collection since I don't travel in the paleozoic that much. Treptoceras trebriseptum from the Georgian Bay Formation from the viscinity of Toronto found on one of my rare trips to Canada.

post-2384-0-90254800-1373320145_thumb.jpg

 

Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger

http://www.steinkern.de/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Quite beautiful polished, Roger. What did you use?

Various grades of sanding powders on a rotating steel plate and then polishing on the same plate using powder on leather.

 

Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger

http://www.steinkern.de/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

DEVONIAN TREES THAT LOOK LIKE ORTHOCONES

FOUND 4th of JULY

TULLY NY - HAMILTON GROUP (Devonian)

As previously posted, my wife and I found 3 fossils that we originally thought were orthocones standing vertically in the rock formation at Tully, NY. The images are posted on our Tully Trip Report but here they are again.

UPDATE: I couldn't seem to find any documentation on orthocones this large, or any associated with the Hamilton Group at Tully - then other experts weighed in on our finds and they turned out to be ancient Devonian trees - in fact, the oldest known trees. Physically they look like mangal shoots (similar to how mangroves grow). The first verdict is that these are Wattieza sp. but it could be a different species. The images are labeled "orthocone" but are actually now as we believe, Devonian trees.

Here are the three fossils in situ as we found them:

post-8709-0-93498600-1373420091_thumb.jpg post-8709-0-71262100-1373420112_thumb.jpg post-8709-0-95949900-1373420131_thumb.jpg

Here is a closeup of the tip section of the first specimen showing the center core which we originally thought was the siphuncle of an orthocone but now it appears to be the stele in a very young tree growing in the shallow marine environment - next to it is a separate segment that was found separately, disarticulated in the rubble:

post-8709-0-90888300-1373420192_thumb.jpg post-8709-0-98274800-1373420208_thumb.jpg

We just returned from the trip and I am just beginning to photo-document these, which we were able to extract intact. Our impression is that it is rare to find these critters in situ exactly where they died. Also, I'm having a tough time finding any resources that will help determine the species, how rare or unique these are, etc.

Edited by hitekmastr
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I had no idea! That's a nice one for your collection.. I wonder why I find so few and they are so

tiny.. I will have to keep looking for ones I can see without a loupe..

Check out the large specimens we just found at Tully...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

lol, hitekmastr, you found mine's great, great, great grand-daddy!

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice ones, hrguy, especially that last one. The coloring is beautiful!

Welcome to the forum!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

post-9628-0-20672200-1373831247_thumb.jpg

Ordovician. Galena Formation Se MN

This is a very nice little guy, about 5 inches long. Anyone happen to know what it is for an ID?

Bev :)

The more I learn, I realize the less I know.

:wacko:
 
 

Go to my

Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts
 

Pinned Posts:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...