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As a quick update, I recently received an e-mail from Dr. Mayr which stated " ...... this is just to let you know that I finished my current project and will now start working on the bones you sent (earlier than I initially thought). I think that I will be able to produce a manuscript within the next weeks and will let you know once this has made progress ......" This is great news for me. I'll post any interesting updates from Dr. Mayr that I receive.

Marco Sr.

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:fingers crossed:

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Perhaps you should try G.Mayr,at the Senckenberg Institute

edit:do I feel stupid ,or what?

serves me right for not reading everything that's been posted before

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Perhaps you should try G.Mayr,at the Senckenberg Institute

edit:do I feel stupid ,or what?

serves me right for not reading everything that's been posted before

There are 3 pages of posts, so a lot to read. Dr. Mayr is a very good suggestion especially for Eocene bird bones.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

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Below is an e-mail update from Dr. Mayr:

".... the study of your bones proceeds very well and altogether I could distinguish 13 species, at least one of which is based on diagnostic material and can be named as a new species. .... I am currently preparing a manuscript for publication ...."

Marco Sr.

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Outstanding!

"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

“Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley

>Paleontology is an evolving science.

>May your wonders never cease!

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Well done, Marco Sr. !!!

Congratulations.

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Outstanding!

Fantastic, Marco Sr.!! How very exciting and rewarding. :)

Well done, Marco Sr. !!!

Congratulations.

Regards,

Way cool Marco!!

Tony

Very very cool, congratulations. Looks like it paid off.

Thank you. I'm really looking forward to the paper and the description of the new species.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

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  • 5 months later...

A paper by Dr. Gerald Mayr was just published on-line October 14, 2016 describing these bird bones.  I am very happy to finally have these bird bones described.  The paper is exactly three years to the day from the date of this post.

 

The abstract is below:

 

New avian remains from the early Eocene Nanjemoy Formation in Virginia (USA) are described. The material stems from the Fisher/Sullivan site and consists of isolated bones. These belong to at least 13 species, most of which have not yet been reported from the Nanjemoy Formation. The fossil material includes the oldest unambiguous record of a charadriiform bird and a new species of protostrigid owl, which represents the smallest known owl species. Other specimens are tentatively assigned to the Procellariiformes, the suliform Fregatidae, the gruiform Messelornithidae, and the apodiform Eocypselidae. A complete and well-preserved tarsometatarsus of the psittacopasserine Halcyornithidae provides new data on the osteology of these enigmatic birds, and a distal tibiotarsus is tentatively assigned to the Trogoniformes. The identification of a number of fossils is uncertain, with the bones showing similarities to Threskiornithidae and extinct taxa from the early Eocene of Europe (Microena, Morsoravis). All bird fossils from the Nanjemoy Formation are three-dimensionally preserved and, therefore, allow a detailed assessment of osteological features, which complements studies of compression fossils from lagerstätten-type fossil sites.

 

A link to the paper is provided below.  Note the paper is not a free download unless you have an institutional subscription and costs USD $39.95.

 

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12542-016-0330-8

 

I am especially happy that there was a new owl species, the smallest known owl species, among the specimens.  Pictures of a number of the specimens in this post are in the paper.  Unfortunately a picture of the owl specimen is not in this post.  I found that specimen after this post by finally finishing searching matrix that I had collected years earlier.

 

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

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I'm really happy for you, Marco.  Congratulations and kudos!

 

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Marco, this is fantastic! Congratulations! :fistbump:

 

@Auspexwould enjoy this. 

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Congratulations Marco and wow it was a very quick process.   It's nice to see your hard work pay off and something to be proud of.

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7 hours ago, jpc said:

This is great news.  Congrats, marco.  Mayr reported these things incredibly quickly.  

 

Jean-Pierre

 

I was surprised how quickly Dr. Mayr wrote this paper also.  To me, the paper is very well written.  Probably why Dr. Mayr is considered the foremost expert in Eocene bird bones.

 

Marco Sr.

 

 

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5 hours ago, JohnJ said:

I'm really happy for you, Marco.  Congratulations and kudos!

 

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John

 

Thank you.  It is often difficult to find a researcher who is interested in specific specimens even if they are very rare.  I was really lucky that Dr. Mayr was interested in my bird bone specimens.

 

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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3 hours ago, PFOOLEY said:

Marco, this is fantastic! Congratulations! :fistbump:

 

@Auspexwould enjoy this. 

 

Mike

 

Thank you.  It feels really good to advance science, even if only a little bit.  Described specimens to me are so much more valuable than ones sitting in my collection or in a drawer in a museum basement.

 

Marco Sr.

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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36 minutes ago, Troodon said:

Congratulations Marco and wow it was a very quick process.   It's nice to see your hard work pay off and something to be proud of.

 

Thank you.  The one nice thing about the very small fossils, which I spend so much time collecting, is that there are a lot of new and interesting very small species to be found.

 

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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4 hours ago, sorzano95 said:

congrats and I agree that its nice to see your hard work pay off. hopefully you will find plenty more rare fossils.

 

Branden

 

Thank you.  I actually have a good number of rare fossils already, especially shark and ray specimens.  The problem is finding a good researcher who is interested enough in your specimens to be willing to study and describe them.  Researchers all have their niche interests.

 

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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