My Mazon Creek Finds

[Nimravis]

Love the microconchids on the sphenophyllum.

[deutscheben]

8 minutes ago, Nimravis said:

Love the microconchids on the sphenophyllum.

Oops, thank you Ralph! Spirorbis was the old ID.

[Nimravis]

19 minutes ago, deutscheben said:

Oops, thank you Ralph! Spirorbis was the old ID.

I like old ID’s. On my pieces that I have glued to cardboard are called Spirobis, I really hate name changes, bring on Edmondia and Pecopteris. Lol

[stats]

On 9/4/2022 at 8:09 AM, Nimravis said:

I like old ID’s. On my pieces that I have glued to cardboard are called Spirobis, I really hate name changes, bring on Edmondia and Pecopteris. Lol

I agree, Ralph.  Some of the new ids don't make sense.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

[FossilDAWG]

10 minutes ago, stats said:

I agree, Ralph.  Some of the new ids don't make sense.

Have you read the papers where the taxonomy of those old waste bucket genera and species were revised?  Do you believe paleontologists publish nonsense revisions just to be annoying?  "Pecopteris", for one example, has long been recognized as almost meaningless as it contained a large number of unrelated plants.

 

Don

[stats]

10 minutes ago, FossilDAWG said:

Have you read the papers where the taxonomy of those old waste bucket genera and species were revised?  Do you believe paleontologists publish nonsense revisions just to be annoying?  "Pecopteris", for one example, has long been recognized as almost meaningless as it contained a large number of unrelated plants.

 

Don

Some definitely need cleaning up, Pecopteris included.  There are true and seed ferns with the genus Pecopteris.  That is definitely still incorrect.

 

Some of the changes didn't help clear things up.  Edmondia and a few others.

 

And, no I don't think paleontologists publish nonsense.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by stats

[deutscheben]

I have had a few more pieces of flora from the river split over the last month. 
 

First are two Lepidostrobophyllum cone bracts:

 

 

 

I really love the little one, so dainty!

 

 

Next is a small coprolite:

 

 

And a little piece of plant material with microconchids:

 

 

 

Here is a partial chunk of  Crenulopteris:

 

 

And another different fern- I am not positive on the ID, perhaps Oligocarpia?

 

 

Finally, this piece has left me puzzled. It has a sort of undulating pattern to it. One possibility is a part of cone like Macrostachya, but I’m not very confident in that. Any thoughts?

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2022 by deutscheben

[Nimravis]

On 9/5/2022 at 9:43 AM, FossilDAWG said:

Have you read the papers where the taxonomy of those old waste bucket genera and species were revised?  Do you believe paleontologists publish nonsense revisions just to be annoying?  "Pecopteris", for one example, has long been recognized as almost meaningless as it contained a large number of unrelated plants.

 

Don

Don- I just saw this. No, I do not read any papers, let alone all of the Mazon Creek books and publications, and I have a lot of them. I am just a collector of the fossils and the publications, and I spend a lot of time collecting, whacking open concretions and organizing my finds plus the last 2 collections that I recently purchased. With this on my plate, it does not leave much time for anything else. With that said, I know that  they have changed names on a number of fossils and what they are now considered. I still like using the old terminology, except for Edmondia, I have fully embraced Mazonomya mazonensis, mostly because I was at one the Mazon Creek open houses in the early 90’s when they made the change.

Edited September 27, 2022 by Nimravis

[marguy]

On 9/26/2022 at 3:24 PM, deutscheben said:

And a little piece of plant material with microconchids:

I like this association, plants and microconchids;

personally I recently found for the first time a microconchid in the permian deposits in my region, it was a memorable day!

[connorp]

On 9/26/2022 at 8:24 AM, deutscheben said:

Hmmm. Is the venation clear? Can't tell from the photo.

[deutscheben]

1 hour ago, connorp said:

Hmmm. Is the venation clear? Can't tell from the photo.

 
Not particularly I’m afraid:

 

 

[deutscheben]

Continuing with river finds, here is another Acanthotelson stimpsoni- this is my best-preserved and largest one yet:

 

 

 

[bigred97]

Beautiful! What detail - congrats!

[Mark Kmiecik]

Splendid specimen with gorgeous detail! 

[deutscheben]

Thanks @bigred97 and @Mark Kmiecik! I was really impressed with the detail too, what a great feeling when a fossil can reinvigorate your sense of wonder and delight. 

[connorp]

Nice one!

[stats]

Nice!

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

[deutscheben]

After the big freeze around Christmas, I brought my bucket of last year’s river finds in from outside. I checked each of them to look for anything that split and was happy to find a few decent things. 
 

In a nice bit of continuity with my last post, I had another excellent Acanthotelson stimpsoni crack open.

 

 

 

 

There were also some ferns as well. First, a very partial bit of Lobatopteris?

 

 

And then this mostly complete one, perhaps Cyathocarpus or Diplazites?

 

 

The bucket is back outside again, hopefully the freeze coming in next week will do some more work!

[Nimravis]

Nice finds Ben- I have not checked mine yet.

[stats]

Good ones!  I've been getting common stuff and a very large Annularia from Danville.  I'll post it soon.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

[deutscheben]

15 hours ago, Nimravis said:

Nice finds Ben- I have not checked mine yet.

Thanks, Ralph!

 

13 minutes ago, stats said:

Good ones!  I've been getting common stuff and a very large Annularia from Danville.  I'll post it soon.

 

Cheers,

Rich

 

 

Thanks! I look forward to seeing those.

[jdp]

Love that Acanthotelson. All the shrimp I've been popping open lack that sort of detail so far.

[flipper559]

Love the Shrimp Ben !!   

Good job !!

 

Rock On !!

Phil

[deutscheben]

Thanks @flipper559 and @jdp!

[bigred97]

Ben you have been very lucky with some nice Acanthotelson specimens, I just love them. Congrats!