1. Fossil ID please

[Crann]

Opened this up and wondered if any ideas ? Thanks.

[Pemphix]

Hi Crann,

same as i wrote you for the other candidate: more info is needed....

 

Best regards,

Pemphix

 

[Crann]

Same area, Yorkshire Jurrasic coast, thanks.

[Pemphix]

Difficult to tell from the pictures.

My first impression was "lobster" / "Crab".

Cannot see any hint for vertebrate remains...

 

 

[Crann]

Think I agree but hard to tell as very brittle inside.

[LordTrilobite]

I darkened that first image a little for you so some parts are more visible.

 

[Yvie]

Looks different from the other nodule.

[Fossildude19]

Looks flaky, ... like fish bone, to me. 

[TqB]

23 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Looks flaky, ... like fish bone, to me. 

 

I think you're right - I was going to suggest that but fish aren't my strong point... 

[Crann]

Think I need to mix some pva glue and water to keep it together.

[Fossildude19]

Don't forget - these are broken in half, showing cross sections. Not ideal for ID.  

It might be worth while to have them glued back together, and prepped out, from the outside. 

Just a thought. You might have better luck with ID with a full view, rather than a cross section.  

Regards, 

[Crann]

Daunting 

[Crann]

You think should superglue back together then try and prep from outside with a pen ?

[Crann]

Or get the chisel down a different part to try and expose the edge ? 

[Fossildude19]

I would glue it together, and prep from the outside with a pen.

Another thought is to work on one half, going in from the side - so that you know where the fossil is. 

Might be a bit less daunting that way. 

 

I think, in the future, ... rather than trying to split them with a hammer, you might give the Freeze/Thaw method a shot. 

Search the Forum if you are unfamiliar with the process.

Best of luck, whatever you do. 

Regards, 

[LordTrilobite]

To be sure. Make a lot of good detailed photos before you glue it. Just in case it goes badly you'll have some photos of how it looked before.

[Crann]

Think I like the sounds of going in to the side as not going in "blind" just need a decent pen to start the work...

[Pemphix]

I'm still in doubt about the fish:

no hint from the photos that it may be a fish (even in a cross section like this you should be able to see bones, scales, fins...).

And fishes are not so common in these layers as far as i know - Lobster's/Crab's are more common in some of the layers at the jurassic coast of Yorkshire..

On the other hand, the photos are not so good, especially concerning a needed close view on the details...so yes, there's room for discussion.

 

P.S.: A nice article (concerning of several parts) about Yorkshire coast you may find here: https://www.steinkern.de/fundorte/england-schottland-wales/262-yorkshire-2008-teil-1-scalby-ness.html

 

Best regards,

Pemphix

[Fossildude19]

2 minutes ago, Pemphix said:

I'm still in doubt about the fish:

no hint from the photos that it may be a fish (even in a cross section like this you should be able to see bones, scales, fins...).

And fishes are not so common in these layers as far as i know - Lobster's/Crab's are more common in some of the layers at the jurassic coast of Yorkshire..

On the other hand, the photos are not so good, especially concerning a needed close view on the details...so yes, there's room for discussion.

 

P.S.: A nice article (concerning of several parts) about Yorkshire coast you may find here: https://www.steinkern.de/fundorte/england-schottland-wales/262-yorkshire-2008-teil-1-scalby-ness.html

 

Best regards,

Pemphix

 

 

I don't think it is a complete or partial fish, merely a bone of a fish. 

It has a flaky look to it that is typical of fish bones. 

I don't think anyone will be able to ID it correctly until it is prepped out of the nodule. 

I think it looks like a cross section through what may be a fish bone.  

 

 

[TqB]

Good fish are rare here but it could be a piece of Gyrosteus (giant sturgeon), chunks of which are quite common in nodules from one or two beds.

[Welsh Wizard]

Hi

 

it's a fish bone. I've got a similar nodule that I'll post later.

 

nice find. I'd just leave it as it is. If you glue it, you'll struggle to prep the bone.

 

Nick

[Crann]

10 minutes ago, Welsh Wizard said:

Hi

 

it's a fish bone. I've got a similar nodule that I'll post later.

 

nice find. I'd just leave it as it is. If you glue it, you'll struggle to prep the bone.

 

Nick

Cheers Nick, appreciate it.

[Welsh Wizard]

Picture 1. The bone is similar to yours. The nodule is from Saltwick Bay

 

[Welsh Wizard]

Picture 2: A set of what look like belly ribs. This is the same nodule but the other side. I split it twice.

 

apologies for the pictures reorientating themselves. Not sure what's happened.