Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Opened this up and wondered if any ideas ? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hi Crann, same as i wrote you for the other candidate: more info is needed.... Best regards, Pemphix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Same area, Yorkshire Jurrasic coast, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Difficult to tell from the pictures. My first impression was "lobster" / "Crab". Cannot see any hint for vertebrate remains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Think I agree but hard to tell as very brittle inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I darkened that first image a little for you so some parts are more visible. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvie Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Looks different from the other nodule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Looks flaky, ... like fish bone, to me. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 23 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: Looks flaky, ... like fish bone, to me. I think you're right - I was going to suggest that but fish aren't my strong point... Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Think I need to mix some pva glue and water to keep it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Don't forget - these are broken in half, showing cross sections. Not ideal for ID. It might be worth while to have them glued back together, and prepped out, from the outside. Just a thought. You might have better luck with ID with a full view, rather than a cross section. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Daunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 You think should superglue back together then try and prep from outside with a pen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Or get the chisel down a different part to try and expose the edge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I would glue it together, and prep from the outside with a pen. Another thought is to work on one half, going in from the side - so that you know where the fossil is. Might be a bit less daunting that way. I think, in the future, ... rather than trying to split them with a hammer, you might give the Freeze/Thaw method a shot. Search the Forum if you are unfamiliar with the process. Best of luck, whatever you do. Regards, 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 To be sure. Make a lot of good detailed photos before you glue it. Just in case it goes badly you'll have some photos of how it looked before. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Think I like the sounds of going in to the side as not going in "blind" just need a decent pen to start the work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I'm still in doubt about the fish: no hint from the photos that it may be a fish (even in a cross section like this you should be able to see bones, scales, fins...). And fishes are not so common in these layers as far as i know - Lobster's/Crab's are more common in some of the layers at the jurassic coast of Yorkshire.. On the other hand, the photos are not so good, especially concerning a needed close view on the details...so yes, there's room for discussion. P.S.: A nice article (concerning of several parts) about Yorkshire coast you may find here: https://www.steinkern.de/fundorte/england-schottland-wales/262-yorkshire-2008-teil-1-scalby-ness.html Best regards, Pemphix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pemphix said: I'm still in doubt about the fish: no hint from the photos that it may be a fish (even in a cross section like this you should be able to see bones, scales, fins...). And fishes are not so common in these layers as far as i know - Lobster's/Crab's are more common in some of the layers at the jurassic coast of Yorkshire.. On the other hand, the photos are not so good, especially concerning a needed close view on the details...so yes, there's room for discussion. P.S.: A nice article (concerning of several parts) about Yorkshire coast you may find here: https://www.steinkern.de/fundorte/england-schottland-wales/262-yorkshire-2008-teil-1-scalby-ness.html Best regards, Pemphix I don't think it is a complete or partial fish, merely a bone of a fish. It has a flaky look to it that is typical of fish bones. I don't think anyone will be able to ID it correctly until it is prepped out of the nodule. I think it looks like a cross section through what may be a fish bone. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TqB Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Good fish are rare here but it could be a piece of Gyrosteus (giant sturgeon), chunks of which are quite common in nodules from one or two beds. 1 Tarquin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi it's a fish bone. I've got a similar nodule that I'll post later. nice find. I'd just leave it as it is. If you glue it, you'll struggle to prep the bone. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crann Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Welsh Wizard said: Hi it's a fish bone. I've got a similar nodule that I'll post later. nice find. I'd just leave it as it is. If you glue it, you'll struggle to prep the bone. Nick Cheers Nick, appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Picture 1. The bone is similar to yours. The nodule is from Saltwick Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Picture 2: A set of what look like belly ribs. This is the same nodule but the other side. I split it twice. apologies for the pictures reorientating themselves. Not sure what's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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