Barek Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Hello TFF! I went exploring the cliffs at Beaumaris (Melbourne, Australia) recently and found some small fossils. While I recognise the Echinoids from other posts, I was wondering if the piece in the bottom right is also a fossil of some sort? Also I found a shell that's stone/rock - is this a fossil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fossil-Hound Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm not familiar with that area but upon first glance the dark grey entity appears to be either a piece of igneous (volcanic based) rock though I'm really not familiar with the geological history of the area. If this where a fossil it would most likely be a vertebrae or bone segment and I don't see any bone pores and therefore must rule this one out and make a decision that it is a rock. Do or do not. There is no try. - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barek Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Fossil-Hound said: I'm not familiar with that area but upon first glance the dark grey entity appears to be either a piece of igneous (volcanic based) rock though I'm really not familiar with the geological history of the area. If this where a fossil it would most likely be a vertebrae or bone segment and I don't see any bone pores and therefore must rule this one out and make a decision that it is a rock. Cheers! Really appreciate your reply! I'm very new to this so was unsure of what it was. There is a lot of volcanic rock in the area. I have some other trips planned so I'm sure I'll be posting more rocks on the future hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Welcome to the Fossil Forum. The bottom picture of the "shell that's stone/rock" is a fossil, a steinkern which is an internal mold of a gastropod similar to a cone shell. A steinkern is the hardened sediments (looks like sand) inside a shell that is visible when the shell dissolves or erodes away. Send us some close up pictures of the echinoids from several angles to help us ID them. 3 My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barek Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, DPS Ammonite said: Welcome to the Fossil Forum. The bottom picture of the "shell that's stone/rock" is a fossil, a steinkern which is an internal mold of a gastropod similar to a cone shell. A steinkern is the hardened sediments (looks like sand) inside a shell that is visible when the shell dissolves or erodes away. Send us some close up pictures of the echinoids from several angles to help us ID them. Ohh that's great info! I'll include some pics below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yvie Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Welcome from England.Lovely finds,mine are usually beach rolled.Can you put a side picture of the black piece,it may be a scute (croc/turtle armour) Yvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barek Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 @Yvie I'll include some below. I had to ask about because its quite uniform and (to my novice eye) seemed to have a top/bottom and it feet very different from the 100's of rocks I'd touched that day some extra pics https://www.flickr.com/gp/barekart/d4w550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvie Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm no expert someone will help,it does look like it has a sandwich formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 This look is often extremely difficult to identify positively. It may take a locally trained eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Barek said: Ohh that's great info! I'll include some pics below Beautiful Lovenia woodsii echinoids - congratulations!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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