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Marine? and mammal? fossils from a collection


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I recently acquired a large collection of fossils and I need help identifying them.

#1 This was found along Charmouth beach in the pebbles so I don't know the geological age.

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#2 These are from Petersfield from a stream. Again, no idea of the age of it.

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#3 and #4 I don't know where these were found but I'm pretty sure they belonged to some sort of mammal.

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#1 looks like it could be graptolites, but perhaps it could also be part of a bivalve (i.e. the hinge)?

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22 minutes ago, Monica said:

#1 looks like it could be graptolites, but perhaps it could also be part of a bivalve (i.e. the hinge)?

 

21 minutes ago, Bobby Rico said:

No 1 Graptolites for me too.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll see what other ideas people put forward.

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# 1 is a cross section of Crinoid stem.  

 

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Can we get more pictures of the other sides of each item, as well as end views on the bones (both ends, please.) ?

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I agree with Tim that crinoid stem cross-section seems to be the best match for #1. Not seeing any bivalve, and the triangles seem a little too triangular for graptolites. 

Plus Charmouth has many crinoids, and I haven't heard of any graptolites being found in the rocks there. 

If the rock was found in Charmouth then there is about a 90% chance that this rock is from the Blue Lias of the early Jurassic, some 195 million years old.

 

#2 does seem to contain some kind of fossil, but I can't tell what. More (and better) pictures will be needed.

 

#3 is definitely some kind of mammal bone. Perhaps a rib piece but I'm not sure. The chances are extremely slim that the bone can be assigned to a specific species, because it is only a fragment.

It's possible that it's modern and not a fossil. To find that out, you can do a flame test: take a lighter/match and softly burn the bone piece.

  • If it starts to stink badly, then it means that there is still collagen in the bone, meaning the bone is modern.
  • If nothing happens, then it's probably a fossil bone piece. Most likely Pleistocene of age in that case. 

 

Hopefully this helps!

 

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37 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

# 1 is a cross section of Crinoid stem.  

 

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Just what I thought when I saw #1.

I totally agree. :) 

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Agreed - longitudinal section through a crinoid stem is the best ID for #1.

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The clearest picture I could get of #2 is this one:

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The ends of #3:

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The other side of #3:

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The end of #4 (the other end looks exactly the same):

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The other side of #4:

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I hope this helps!

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Is there a back to #2? Or is it covered by matrix...?
If there is an available back view, it may help with the ID.
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6 minutes ago, FossilSniper said:

Is there a back to #2? Or is it covered by matrix...?
If there is an available back view, it may help with the ID.
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It is just flint on the back. The only part you can see is shown in the picture.

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If there was something on the back, I would have guessed it to be a very weathered bivalve. 

I honestly don't know what #2 is, and I'd wait until someone from the UK can tune in.

 

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