thelivingdead531 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Is this just a water worn rock in a weird pattern, or is it something else? Found at West Runton, UK by my son along with a bucket full of flint rocks and a small handful of belenmites. It’s an intriguing pattern, so even if it’s just a rock I still think it’s neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Auspex Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I'll put my money on half a peach pit. 10 "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelivingdead531 Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 I knew the pattern looked familiar, but I wasn’t coming up with anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Lucky! If I were you, I'd get back there and see if you can find the other half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelivingdead531 Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, caldigger said: Lucky! If I were you, I'd get back there and see if you can find the other half. I’ll call myself lucky and settle for this half. It seems to be a rare find on this beach, so I’ll count this one as a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yup, pretty nice one! 2 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 What a cool thing to find! Good spotting! "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Rico Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Fantastic find . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Is this a petrified pit and considered a fossil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bronzviking said: Is this a petrified pit and considered a fossil? I think so. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Bronzviking said: Is this a petrified pit and considered a fossil? 2 hours ago, abyssunder said: I think so. Found with belemnites? I do not see it being fossil, but rather remnants of someone's snack. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thelivingdead531 Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 8 hours ago, ynot said: Found with belemnites? I do not see it being fossil, but rather remnants of someone's snack. 12 hours ago, Bronzviking said: Is this a petrified pit and considered a fossil? 11 hours ago, abyssunder said: I think so. While West Runton is highly fossiliferous, ranging from plants, seeds, cones, mollusks, fish, reptiles, and large mammals (mammoths and rhinos), I’m not sure the peach pit is petrified either. Is is there a way to tell? Will the burn test work on this, even if it’s not bone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, thelivingdead531 said: Is is there a way to tell? Will the burn test work on this, even if it’s not bone? If it is modern it should burn after it dries enough. I would just tap it with a spoon though. If it's mineralized it will ring like fine china. Wait for more locally experienced advise before you burn it in case there are true fossils there that still burn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 9 hours ago, ynot said: Found with belemnites? Wouldn't we need to see the entire column for the area for this to be indicative ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Rockwood said: Wouldn't we need to see the entire column for the area for this to be indicative ? Possibly. But I doubt that peach pits of this size are that old. Peach pits that are identical to modern have been found in China and date to 2.5 million years. Further (from wikipedia) Although its botanical name Prunus persica refers to Persia (present Iran) from where it came to Europe, genetic studies suggest peaches originated in China,[11] where they have been cultivated since the neolithic period. Until recently, it was believed that the cultivation started circa 2000 BC.[12][13] More recent evidence indicates that domestication occurred as early as 6000 BC in Zhejiang Province of China. The oldest archaeological peach stones are from the Kuahuqiao site. Archaeologists point to the Yangtze River Valley as the place where the early selection for favorable peach varieties probably took place.[14] Peaches were mentioned in Chinese writings and literature beginning from the early 1st millennium BC.[15] An apparently domesticated peach appeared very early in Japan, in 6700–6400 BP (4700–4400 BC), during the Jōmon period. It was already similar to modern cultivated forms, where the peach stones are significantly larger and more compressed than earlier stones. This domesticated type of peach was apparently brought into Japan from China. Nevertheless, in China itself, this variety is currently attested only at a later date of ca. 5300 to 4300 BP.[14] In India, the peach first appeared by circa 3700 BP (1700 BC), during the Harappan period.[16] It is also found elsewhere in Western Asia in ancient times.[17] Peach cultivation also went from China, through Persia, and reached Greece by 300 BC.[13] It is often claimed that Alexander the Great introduced the fruit into Europe after he conquered the Persians,[17] although there is no historical evidence for this belief.[18] Peaches were, however, well known to the Romans in first century AD,[13] and were cultivated widely in Emilia-Romagna. Peach trees are portrayed in the wall paintings of the towns destroyed by the Vesuvius eruption of 79 AD, while the oldest known artistic representations of the fruit are in two fragments of wall paintings, dated to the first century AD, in Herculaneum, now preserved in the National Archaeological Museum in Naples.[19] 3 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 If it turns out to be stone either the peach pit idea, or this one may need to be scrapped then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Rockwood said: If it turns out to be stone either the peach pit idea, or this one may need to be scrapped then ? But it is a peach stone, at least half of one anyways. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, ynot said: But it is a peach stone, at least half of one anyways. Kind of circular (logic) at this point isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 No one's going to accept this as fossil until burn test is done, is that right? "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockwood Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, Innocentx said: No one's going to accept this as fossil until burn test is done, is that right? No. A small but not insignificant percentage of fossils will burn. I think burning nut would smell like burning nut no mater how old it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Rockwood said: I think burning nut would smell like burning nut no mater how old it is. If it's fossilized then it's been replaced by minerals, correct? How could it then smell of nut when burned? "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 It sure looks like stone to me but I'm not holding it in my hand. I was thinking the same thing @Innocentx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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