BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I've been down for a little minute, but on the mend and digging again. My first outing produced this guy. I found a pocket of kaolin, which is exciting because it seems to always hold nice pieces. I was not let down. I know it still is very encrusted, and I'm trying to navigate it, please bear with me. It's about an inch. When I pulled the nugget I saw a tiny spot of black- figured I had a small tooth or scale. Started prepping it and...what the heck is it? Doesnt look like shell. Never seen anything like it. And ideas? I'm anxious to learn about it. Thanks in advance! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieira Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Hello, Nice find. It looks like a jaw of a fish...with several teeth. If you have possibility, you can prepare the fossil to stay with the jaw, totally clean. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 agree with fish jaw, but more cleaning may reveal something else. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks. I had a feeling it wasn't my usual oyster/clam. 4 minutes ago, Vieira said: Hello, Nice find. It looks like a jaw of a fish...with several teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ynot said: agree with fish jaw, but more cleaning may reveal something else. I'm terrified it'll fall apart, and tips on getting it cleaner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, BuddingPaleo said: I'm terrified it'll fall apart, and tips on getting it cleaner? @Ptychodus04 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks ynot, awesome as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptychodus04 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Thanks for the tag @ynot. How's Tony doing? I would say it is a pycnodont or bonefish tooth plate. Very nice. This prep would be best attacked under a microscope with air scribes. If you want to do it yourself, you can use a needle in a pin vise under magnification. It will be slow but you can get it done. If you're not comfortable with that, I would be happy to work on it for you. Feel free to send me a PM and we can discuss. 4 Regards, Kris Global Paleo Services, LLC https://globalpaleoservices.com http://instagram.com/globalpaleoservices http://instagram.com/kris.howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ptychodus04 said: I would say it is a pycnodont or bonefish tooth plate. Very nice. My finds are usually pliocene, were there still pycnodonts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm looking forward to seeing more prepped out. Maybe you can show progress as you go along. Wonderful find! "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Just now, Innocentx said: I'm looking forward to seeing more prepped out. Maybe you can show progress as you go along. Wonderful find! Thanks! Good idea! I'm super excited about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daves64 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 The 2nd pic almost looks like a snake laying there on top of the rock looking right at you. lol Accomplishing the impossible means only that the boss will add it to your regular duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, daves64 said: The 2nd pic almost looks like a snake laying there on top of the rock looking right at you. lol It does! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BuddingPaleo said: Thanks! Good idea! I'm super excited about it. If You have not prepped this type of fossil, and the bone is frail or brittle, You can easily damage it. I think it is one of those fossils that is worth getting an experienced prepper to do the work. I also look forward to seeing it better exposed. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm in agreement, I did a little more, I found a lot more of what looks like teeth, but stopping now. I'm past my comfort level. You can see the gray peeking through. I've not tried to prep embedded bone before. It's a good predicament to be in! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Yeah, be carefull @BuddingPaleo. sometimes going too far can do some damage. Never a good thing. You have a rather nice specimen there and you would be doing yourself a favor to be asking @Ptychodus04 any and all questions you may have. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, BuddingPaleo said: , I did a little more, I found a lot more of what looks like teeth, Can We see a straight on view of the teeth? (Lower right section of the last picture.) Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 This part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, RJB said: Yeah, be carefull @BuddingPaleo. sometimes going too far can do some damage. Never a good thing. You have a rather nice specimen there and you would be doing yourself a favor to be asking @Ptychodus04 any and all questions you may have. RB Good advice, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BuddingPaleo said: My finds are usually pliocene, were there still pycnodonts? Amanda, they were too old for your Pliocene Tamiami formation. Pycnodontiformes is an extinct order of bony fish. The group evolved during the Late Triassic and disappeared during the Eocene. Still an awesome find no matter what it turns out to be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, BuddingPaleo said: This part? Yes, Thank You. But this picture is out of focus and can not be enlarged. Can You please retake the picture and upload a larger version? Thanks again. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzviking Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Check out this fish mouth plate post and compare pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm having trouble getting a decent picture, but here's another try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddingPaleo Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bronzviking said: Check out this fish mouth plate post and compare pictures. Looks different, but mine is so caked it's hard to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Much better on the pictures. Thanks. Now We wait for someone to recognize the fish. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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