hertzyinmn Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Hello, I found this on shoreline in water near calvert cliffs area Maryland. I found it was quite unique , It seems to have hollow tube areas with divided edges. I was hoping to know what this is, Its heavy but not like a rock heavy. and it is not iron. It is about 8" length but appears to be broken off . Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Looks like corroded iron to me. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sTamprockcoin Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Possibly Limonite aka "pipe ore"/ possibly stalatic in origin. Might also be a worm tube in hematitic sandstone. 1 “Beautiful is what we see. More beautiful is what we understand. Most beautiful is what we do not comprehend.” N. Steno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 It's a ferrous based concretion. Quite plentiful in the local VA and MD Miocene exposures. At one point, it could have had water running through it or it possibly formed around plant roots as water "piped" along them. Either way, the ferrous minerals probably leached out of the water and solidified. At least that is the way it was explained to me by 2 Paleontologists who have extensive knowledge of the local VA & MD Miocene strata. @MarcoSr might be able to explain it better. 9 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 7 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocentx Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 That is quite the concretion! Especially with the little barnacles inside. "Journey through a universe ablaze with changes" Phil Ochs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 You can call it "sandstone pipe".Take a look here . 6 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfoHungryMom Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Question, since barnacles were mentioned... at what point are barnacles considered fossilized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, abyssunder said: Perfect illustration!!! I'll give you an A+ for the effective use of the visual aid. I hope you don't & won't mind as I "borrow" this photo for future use? Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, SailingAlongToo said: Perfect illustration!!! I'll give you an A+ for the effective use of the visual aid. I hope you don't & won't mind as I "borrow" this photo for future use? You can have all of them, here . 3 " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Innocentx said: That is quite the concretion! Especially with the little barnacles inside. To me, these type of barnacles simply mean this specimen was under water for some period of time, in the recent past. They grow in brackish water very quickly and easily attach themselves to everything. Without exaggeration, in the last 2 weeks while doing beach clean ups, I've seen these barnacles on aluminum cans, plastic bottles, ferrous concretions, tires, trees, pier & dock pilings, cardboard, styrofoam and a metal barrel, just to name a few items. 2 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 These barnacles also like to grow on the bottom of my sailboat and even with anti-fouling paint, they easily attach themselves to the hull, rudder and propeller so well, it causes me to have the sailboat hauled, pressure washed, scraped and painted at least every other year. 1 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingAlongToo Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, abyssunder said: You can have all of them, here . Wow! That's an awesome presentation. Thanks!! Interestingly, some of the ferrous concretions here are locally referred to as "bog iron" and Dr. Weems and @MarcoSr are finding animal foot prints and track ways in it. 2 Don't know much about history Don't know much biology Don't know much about science books......... Sam Cooke - (What A) Wonderful World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, InfoHungryMom said: Question, since barnacles were mentioned... at what point are barnacles considered fossilized? It doesn't matter how they are preserved, if they are found in sediments or encrusting fossils from sediments older than Holocene, they are fossils, otherwise they might be considered recent (to say so) in geological time. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, SailingAlongToo said: I'll give you an A+ for the effective use of the visual aid. Thank you! " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertzyinmn Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Thanks all for the information , I would consider this solved .I appreciate all the information. Fun, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Man Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, hertzyinmn said: Thanks all for the information , I would consider this solved .I appreciate all the information. Fun, Stick around! The fun never ends! ...I'm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Ammonite Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 9 hours ago, InfoHungryMom said: Question, since barnacles were mentioned... at what point are barnacles considered fossilized? Anything over 10,000 years old is generally considered a fossil and is fossilized. The hard part is determining exactly how old something is if it is close to a 10k year age. My goal is to leave no stone or fossil unturned. See my Arizona Paleontology Guide link The best single resource for Arizona paleontology anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 18 hours ago, SailingAlongToo said: It's a ferrous based concretion. Quite plentiful in the local VA and MD Miocene exposures. At one point, it could have had water running through it or it possibly formed around plant roots as water "piped" along them. Either way, the ferrous minerals probably leached out of the water and solidified. At least that is the way it was explained to me by 2 Paleontologists who have extensive knowledge of the local VA & MD Miocene strata. @MarcoSr might be able to explain it better. 16 hours ago, SailingAlongToo said: Wow! That's an awesome presentation. Thanks!! Interestingly, some of the ferrous concretions here are locally referred to as "bog iron" and Dr. Weems and @MarcoSr are finding animal foot prints and track ways in it. The specimens in the beginning of this post definitely look like Pleistocene bog iron. Although a lot of this bog iron is found in MD/VA on beaches with Miocene fossils, the bog iron comes from Pleistocene deposits overlaying the Miocene formations. This bog iron erodes out of the Pleistocene deposits high in the cliffs and winds up on the beaches These bog iron deposits formed in shallow waters rich in iron compounds, some of which became densely lithified soon after their formation. We do find footprints in this bog iron at a number of locations along the Potomac River in Virginia. My TFF post at the below link shows an example of the tracks and lists at the end of the post the recently published paper by Dr. Weems on these tracks. http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/70061-pleistocene-bog-iron-track/& Marco Sr. 4 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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