MeargleSchmeargl Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Absolutely GORGEOUS crinoid calyx! Every single fossil you see is a miracle set in stone, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 That is not the anal side. It will look a bit different than the other sides. I think you just need to turn it a bit more to reveal the anal side. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I think I have determined the anal side from one of your pics. See pic below. Lay it on its side and take a pic. It should look a bit different and have extra plates. Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 I'll get some new pictures this evening. Thanks again For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Ok, I was able to get some additional photos. Unfortunately the focus is off on one. For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifbrindacier Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 The more i see it, the more i find it gorgeous ! "On ne voit bien que par le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux." (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry) "We only well see with the heart, the essential is invisible for the eyes." In memory of Doren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Ramo said: This is the picture of the anal side. There are two plates right in the middle that will lead to the tegmen. This eliminates what I was thinking. I will do some research and see what I can come up with. Is the Permian or Pennsylvanian? Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 I am pretty sure it is Permian in age. For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crinus Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I think what you have here is a really nice and probably rare crinoid crown of the family Cromyocrinidea. These crinoids ranged from the Mississippian to the Permian. Problems is that most of them are Pennsylvanian. I know nothing about Kansas crinoids and really can't help you more that this. You probably need to find an expert on Permian or Kansas crinoids. Bill Ausich probably can help. If not, then at least lead you in the proper direction. He is at Ohio State. You probably need to be sure that it is Permian. Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramo Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Thank you Crinus. I will pass on your information to my brother, and let you know if he follows up on it. For one species to mourn the death of another is a new thing under the sun. -Aldo Leopold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 hours ago, crinus said: I think what you have here is a really nice and probably rare crinoid crown of the family Cromyocrinidea. These crinoids ranged from the Mississippian to the Permian. Problems is that most of them are Pennsylvanian. I know nothing about Kansas crinoids and really can't help you more that this. You probably need to find an expert on Permian or Kansas crinoids. Bill Ausich probably can help. If not, then at least lead you in the proper direction. He is at Ohio State. You probably need to be sure that it is Permian. Joe Here is a link to the geology of Wabaunsee County. It could be Pennsylvanian-Permian. https://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1068/report.pdf This is pretty old and there may be a newer publication somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 11:51 AM, crinus said: Is the Permian or Pennsylvanian? That can be a tricky question in regards to the Flint Hills in Kansas. Exactly where the boundary between the two in Kansas has been debated for years. The latest I’ve read is the base of the Bennet Shale is considered the boundary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Even better, an interactive geologic map for the county http://www.kgs.ku.edu/General/Geology/County/tw/wabaunsee.html Point, click and zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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