Darko Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Hi everyone! I need help! I Will have this specimens in a few weeks.The biggest one is Machairodus horibilis lower jaw, i hope so. I got these stuff from my friend from China. Also, as u can see there is a lower canine from a Cave Hyena. But it's somehow long and tick for a Hyena canine. I don't know what to think about the lower jaw, it's more similar to canids and Hyenas then to felids. And yes, at the end phalanx of ferret? If someone can help somehow to determine this, that Will help me a lot to know what's the real truth. Thanks guys again! Darko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Guys,any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I can't help with the identification, but they are very nice specimens. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 hours ago, Mark Kmiecik said: I can't help with the identification, but they are very nice specimens. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Look like canid teeth to me. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearLake Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 I don’t have any opinions on the tooth or jaw fragment, but are you saying the third bone (the rectangular one) is from a ferret? It is an astragalus bone and if it is from a ferret, that would be a huge ferret (like the size of a large dog)! I’m not sure what the astragalus of a cave hyena looks like, but the size is about right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262245310_Machairodus_aphanistus_Felidae_Machairodontinae_Homotherini_from_the_Late_Miocene_Vallesian_Mn_10_Site_of_Batallones-3_Torrejon_De_Velasco_Madrid_Spain https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309409331_A_skull_of_Machairodus_horribilis_and_new_evidence_for_gigantism_as_a_mode_of_mosaic_evolution_in_machairodonts_Felidae_Carnivora Difficult to tell from just these fragments. Jaw fragment shows some parallels to "machairodonts" imo (see first article), but i'm not an expert here. @Crazyhen is able more to tell, probably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhen Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 The lower jaw fragment seems to belong to Machairodus. For the tooth, it looks like it belongs to Felis. And I am not sure about the small bone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I am not getting a cat feel here, I really think the jaw section and canine are from a Miocene Hyena from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldigger Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Oddly enough, I have kept this tooth since I was about 9 years old. Bought in a shop in Los Angeles that was labeled as "Tiger tooth". I have always had my doubts about it and have often thought it was just a modern dog tooth from an unfortunate demise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimravis Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I also have one- Hyena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pemphix Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Crazyhen said: The lower jaw fragment seems to belong to Machairodus. For the tooth, it looks like it belongs to Felis. And I am not sure about the small bone. Thank you for having a look 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 4.7.2019. at 2:03 AM, Crazyhen said: The lower jaw fragment seems to belong to Machairodus. For the tooth, it looks like it belongs to Felis. And I am not sure about the small bone. But look at the teeth, they are more similar to Canids and Hyenas than to big cats...Idk what to think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 4.7.2019. at 3:43 AM, Nimravis said: I am not getting a cat feel here, I really think the jaw section and canine are from a Miocene Hyena from China. But which species? Pachrycrocuta,Percrocuta ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/2/2019 at 8:29 PM, ClearLake said: I don’t have any opinions on the tooth or jaw fragment, but are you saying the third bone (the rectangular one) is from a ferret? It is an astragalus bone and if it is from a ferret, that would be a huge ferret (like the size of a large dog)! I’m not sure what the astragalus of a cave hyena looks like, but the size is about right. That's not a hyena astragulus. It's from an artiodactyl (even-toed hoofed mammal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/3/2019 at 6:43 PM, Nimravis said: I am not getting a cat feel here, I really think the jaw section and canine are from a Miocene Hyena from China. I agree. That looks more like one of those smaller "running hyenas." Those teeth are all premolars. Cats don't have that many. @fossillarry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darko Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 hours ago, siteseer said: I agree. That looks more like one of those smaller "running hyenas." Those teeth are all premolars. Cats don't have that many. @fossillarry I knew it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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