Peace river Id help

[Done Drillin]

Found a couple of interesting things that I would like to see what others think of. Have 2 what I believe are whale teeth but are very different so would like to know if others have any insight on their previous owners and a mammal tooth that the closest thing I can come up with is a bison premolar ? The whale teeth are 8.5 and 6cm in length respectively. The smaller curved one has an open root and the larger one does not or it has been fractured off.All were found in the Peace River. Thanks!

[Harry Pristis]

The last find appears to be a bovid p3 . . . the enamel striations suggest bison.

 

[Done Drillin]

Yes ! Finally got the cow monkey off my back ! Referenced your album pics to come up with that so many thanks - they are a great help. I have the Hulbert vertebrate fossil book and I must say your photos and often side by side comparisons are vastly superior ........

[Done Drillin]

Any of the whale experts have a thought on the 2 whale teeth ? The large one is pretty beat up so not sure if any Id can be made for that one but the smaller curved one maybe ? Is it fair to say it could be kogiopsis Floridana ?

[pachy-pleuro-whatnot-odon]

I'm actually not sure whether the extremely recurved tooth is a whale tooth. But, in any case, lets tag @Shellseeker and see what he has to say...

[Shellseeker]

On 7/8/2022 at 9:00 AM, Done Drillin said:

Any of the whale experts have a thought on the 2 whale teeth ? The large one is pretty beat up so not sure if any Id can be made for that one but the smaller curved one maybe ? Is it fair to say it could be kogiopsis Floridana ?

On the left side tooth,  this shape /size is the most common whale tooth I have found in Bone Valley and would be Kogiopsis .sp because the only other large candidate is Scaldicetus and it is not possible to mistake the two.  Here is the holotype from K. floridanus

 

The tooth on the right is really interesting based on curvature and small diameter. It is whale .. the banding tells us that...

Here are a couple of teeth I from BoneValley Phosphate mines in Polk county.  This first one is 73 mm and has similar curvature.. maybe juvenile Kogiopsis ?

 

This 2nd one seems enough different that I frequently wonder if it is Kogiopsis. Does that look like an enamel tip?

 

Now , you know what I know... I'll try to get @Boesse to confirm or clarify my speculations..

[Done Drillin]

Thank you sir - doesn’t seem to a lot of info on these guys which makes them that more appealing. I believe most of the info comes from just a few lower jaw specimens -  you have certainly found some nice ones. Really makes my day to find one of them !

[Shellseeker]

5 hours ago, Done Drillin said:

Thank you sir - doesn’t seem to a lot of info on these guys which makes them that more appealing. I believe most of the info comes from just a few lower jaw specimens -  you have certainly found some nice ones. Really makes my day to find one of them !

If you are interested in Kogiopsis,  take a look at this video on YouTube..

 

and,  here's a thread where I posted a number of the other big whale,  Scaldicetus...  I do a little jig each and every time I find one... There are plenty left out there for you..   Jack

 

[Done Drillin]

Awesome information ! Amazing that the teeth were found sitting upright associated with each other in a river system - truly a find of a lifetime. Ha ! Yes they are certainly jig worthy !