dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Hi, Is this a Dromeosaur vertebra centrum?, Is there anyway to tell If it is? It’s 1.56 inches long, and is from the Drumheller valley of the Horseshoe Canyon Formation of Alberta, Canada. Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The extreme pinching at the base suggests turtle to me. By raptor, do you mean actual raptor (bird of prey) or the terrible term the Speilberg and Chriton made popluar for small theropos such as dromeosaurs? (Yes, I am one of those who hates the term 'raptor ' for non-avian dinosaurs). End of soap box. Look up turtle vertebrae. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, jpc said: The extreme pinching at the base suggests turtle to me. By raptor, do you mean actual raptor (bird of prey) or the terrible term the Speilberg and Chriton made popluar for small theropos such as dromeosaurs? (Yes, I am one of those who hates the term 'raptor ' for non-avian dinosaurs). End of soap box. Look up turtle vertebrae. Thank you I will look up turtle vertebrae, and I mean Dromeosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, jpc said: By raptor, do you mean actual raptor (bird of prey) or the terrible term the Speilberg and Chriton made popluar for small theropos such as dromeosaurs? (Yes, I am one of those who hates the term 'raptor ' for non-avian dinosaurs). I agree with you... but at the same time there are quite a few dromaeosaurs that have the generic name end in 'raptor' (Utahraptor, Dakotaraptor, Atrociraptor, Linheraptor, Velociraptor, Pyroraptor, Graciliraptor, Microraptor, Halszkaraptor, Variraptor, Buitreraptor, Austroraptor, Neuquenraptor, Luanchuanraptor, Changyuraptor, Bambiraptor, Acheroraptor...) On that basis, I guess it could be at least partly forgiven that dromaeosaurs are colloquially referred to as 'raptors' Edited February 25, 2020 by The Amateur Paleontologist 1 Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The only described Dromaeosaurid from the HCF is Atrociraptor and this centrum does not belong to it. Its porosity suggests it could be theropod but the pinching does not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Troodon said: The only described Dromaeosaurid from the HCF is Atrociraptor and this centrum does not belong to it. Its porosity suggests it could be theropod but the pinching is not. Thank you @Troodon!! any ideas of what animal could have this type of vertebra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Do you have any better straight view photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 @Troodon No, but I’ll try to get some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 hours ago, The Amateur Paleontologist said: I agree with you... but at the same time there are quite a few dromaeosaurs that have the generic name end in 'raptor' (Utahraptor, Dakotaraptor, Atrociraptor, Linheraptor, Velociraptor, Pyroraptor, Graciliraptor, Microraptor, Halszkaraptor, Variraptor, Buitreraptor, Austroraptor, Neuquenraptor, Luanchuanraptor, Changyuraptor, Bambiraptor, Acheroraptor...) On that basis, I guess it could be at least partly forgiven that dromaeosaurs are colloquially referred to as 'raptors' which leaves out, of course the namesake, Dromaeosaurus. It would be interesting to count up how many were named after the term 'raptor' became par of the vernacular. (Off hand I see only one, Velociraptor). I come at this discussion as a birdwatcher for the past snarge near 50 years (!!!) so when Bob Bakker ("Raptor Red') Jurassic Park made the term 'raptor' a dinosaur word... well, I will remain civil. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amateur Paleontologist Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jpc said: which leaves out, of course the namesake, Dromaeosaurus. It would be interesting to count up how many were named after the term 'raptor' became par of the vernacular. (Off hand I see only one, Velociraptor). I come at this discussion as a birdwatcher for the past snarge near 50 years (!!!) so when Bob Bakker ("Raptor Red') Jurassic Park made the term 'raptor' a dinosaur word... well, I will remain civil. Understood - I myself have already gotten slightly 'miffed' when people emphatically tell me "raptors are extinct"... Well no they're not, they're hunting rodents right as we speak Edited February 25, 2020 by The Amateur Paleontologist 1 Opalised fossils are the best: a wonderful mix between paleontology and mineralogy! Q. Where do dinosaurs study? A. At Khaan Academy!... My ResearchGate profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Amateur Paleontologist said: Understood - I myself have already gotten slightly 'miffed' when people emphatically tell me "raptors are extinct"... Well no they're not, they're hunting rodents right as we speak They are also eating sunflower seeds at my feeders. : ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 If it Is Theropod not saying that it is but It could possibly be one of these: Albertavenator, Albertonykus, Apatoraptor, Epicnirostenotes, Dromiceiomimus, Ornithomimus, Struthiomimus or Albertosaurus. As Atrociraptor has already been ruled out, these are the definite Theropods from the Formation so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur man Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Determining the type of vertebrae might help narrow i down would it be a caudal vertebra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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