Top Trilo Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Finished this fish yesterday, preservation wasn’t terrible. The head Isn’t preserved well and neither is the tips of the fins but anything is better than my first prep which was on an exploded knightia. Could of turned out better but I’m satisfied with it. I have a couple questions. 1. can you tell if it is a priscacara or a cockerellites? I believe they are two different genera with different species. 2. What is the part in front of the fish’s head? It’s not bone, it’s very thin and different, I have no idea what it is. Oh and I was prepping with a not so sharp needle thing, criticism and tips are welcome Edited March 25, 2021 by Top Trilo 3 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Great work, must have been painstaking! Also, love your signature! 1 ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, IsaacTheFossilMan said: Also, love your signature! Thank you I created it Tuesday, took a few hours to find them. So many great people and lines though but I had to keep it short 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaacTheFossilMan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Top Trilo said: Thank you I created it Tuesday, took a few hours to find them. So many great people and lines though but I had to keep it short Indeed. Good prep work, I would recommend a sharp needle, I use a pin vice with an array of different sized needles, from tiny sewing ones to tapestry ones - they're incredibly helpful! 1 ~ Isaac; www.isaactfm.com "Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move!" - Alan Grant Come to the spring that is The Fossil Forum, where the stream of warmth and knowledge never runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 From THIS PDF. Time to start counting rays. ( P .liops is now C. liops. ) 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 @Top Trilo Can you indicate what piece in front of the skull you are asking about? All I see are fragile skull bones. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KompsFossilsNMinerals Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Top Trilo said: Finished this fish yesterday, preservation wasn’t terrible. The head Isn’t preserved well and neither is the tips of the fins but anything is better than my first prep which was on an exploded knightia. Could of turned out better but I’m satisfied with it. I have a couple questions. 1. can you tell if it is a priscacara or a cockerellites? I believe they are two different genera with different species. 2. What is the part in front of the fish’s head? It’s not bone, it’s very thin and different, I have no idea what it is. Oh and I was prepping with a not so sharp needle thing, criticism and tips are welcome Great prep! Its very reminiscent of my first Cockerellites prep, pic related. The layer ontop of the Cockerellites' face is usually harder to get rid of, however I think that spending some time removing it will definitely make the difference. Great prep! Edited March 25, 2021 by KompsFossilsNMinerals accidentally added 2 photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KompsFossilsNMinerals Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: @Top Trilo Can you indicate what piece in front of the skull you are asking about? All I see are fragile skull bones. I believe that they were talking about the layer of matrix above the Cockerellites' face, which is usually harder to remove. Some patience and some time will really help bring out the face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, KompsFossilsNMinerals said: I believe that they were talking about the layer of matrix above the Cockerellites' face, which is usually harder to remove. Some patience and some time will really help bring out the face If it is there, which I am not convinced that it is. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KompsFossilsNMinerals Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: If it is there, which I am not convinced that it is. In the attached screenshot, you can see that there is some bone (and potentially more of the face), underneath the layer. It is pretty hard to tell though... Edited March 25, 2021 by KompsFossilsNMinerals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Nice work. I think others are right there ought to be more fishface in there. Grammar Police says: Could have, not could of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Thanks guys I was not aware more bone may be under this harder matrix and will work on that later. 9 hours ago, KompsFossilsNMinerals said: In the attached screenshot, you can see that there is some bone (and potentially more of the face), underneath the layer. It is pretty hard to tell though... The image is misleading the bone is actually higher than the matrix which is why I wasn't sure if anything was there. Will try to see if I can find more thanks for the help 1 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 I worked a little bit directly in front of the bone, went far deeper than any bone would be and there is nothing but more soft matrix. Either way I had a lot of fun doing it and learned a lot which is a win. 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntonia Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Nice work! 12 hours ago, Top Trilo said: Oh and I was prepping with a not so sharp needle thing, criticism and tips are welcome Sounds like you could use some equipment upgrades, fortunately for mechanical prepping that's pretty affordable. I'd recommend you get a tungsten carbide scriber, ones like these are quite cheap Some dental picks and a headband magnifier could go a long ways too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Trilo Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Huntonia said: Nice work! Sounds like you could use some equipment upgrades, fortunately for mechanical prepping that's pretty affordable. I'd recommend you get a tungsten carbide scriber, ones like these are quite cheap Some dental picks and a headband magnifier could go a long ways too I will definitely look into those On 3/25/2021 at 7:53 AM, Fossildude19 said: From THIS PDF. Time to start counting rays. ( P .liops is now C. liops. ) Thank you Tim for this it looks like it aligns best with P. Serrata 1 “If fossils are not "boggling" your mind then you are simply not doing it right” -Ken (digit) "No fossil is garbage, it´s just not completely preserved” -Franz (FranzBernhard) "With hammer in hand, the open horizon of time, and dear friends by my side, what can we not accomplish together?" -Kane (Kane) "We are in a way conquering time, reuniting members of a long lost family" -Quincy (Opabinia Blues) "I loved reading the trip reports, I loved the sharing, I loved the educational aspect, I loved the humor. It felt like home. It still does" -Mike (Pagurus) “The best deal I ever got was getting accepted as a member on The Fossil Forum. Not only got an invaluable pool of knowledge, but gained a loving family as well.” -Doren (caldigger) "it really is nice, to visit the oasis that is TFF" -Tim (fossildude19) "Life's Good! -Adam (Tidgy's Dad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I like the General Tools pocket scribers. 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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