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The name "artisia" is hardly applicable to them - after all, this is not a cast of the emptiness of a plant; it is the core itself, which has preserved the cellular structure. In this photo (the photo is not mine; I took it from the Internet), the same samples as mine (they are exactly from the same place) are ground and polished - they show the cellular structure. Those. these are stems without external "bark".

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Thank you for sharing these- they are so different from the typical types of Carboniferous flora preservation that we see posted.

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Beautiful specimens; thanks for sharing. Have you tried finding literature specific for your locality? What was the depositional environment like? Could very well be that you are dealing with an upland flora here, which contained different floral elements from your typical lowland "coal swamp" environment... Have you considered things like Walchian conifers? 

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On 12/17/2021 at 4:23 AM, deutscheben said:

Thank you for sharing these- they are so different from the typical types of Carboniferous flora preservation that we see posted.

Hello.
I like them very much too. The fact is that we have many mines, and i will not surprise anyone with prints on coal shale; Also, in the Araucarite layer of the Carboniferous period, there are many fragments of large-diameter trunks - they are all very poorly preserved, ferruginized and recrystallized. There is no  wood structures or small details (such as knots). But in one place I was lucky to find one lens,  a few meters in area, where there were only small branches and of exceptional preservation - small details and knots were preserved. Before that, there were no such finds here. Probably, large trunks and small branches were "sorted" by the current and I was lucky to stumble upon a place where such a valuable material had settled.

 

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On 12/18/2021 at 2:16 PM, paleoflor said:

Beautiful specimens; thanks for sharing. Have you tried finding literature specific for your locality? What was the depositional environment like? Could very well be that you are dealing with an upland flora here, which contained different floral elements from your typical lowland "coal swamp" environment... Have you considered things like Walchian conifers? 

Hello, Tim.

Will copy to you previous post:

The fact is that we have many mines, and i will not surprise anyone with prints on coal shale; Also, in the Araucarite layer of the Carboniferous period, there are many fragments of large-diameter trunks - they are all very poorly preserved, ferruginized and recrystallized. There is no  wood structures or small details (such as knots). But in one place I was lucky to find one lens,  a few meters in area, where there were only small branches and of exceptional preservation - small details and knots were preserved. Before that, there were no such finds here. Probably, large trunks and small branches were "sorted" by the current and I was lucky to stumble upon a place where such a valuable material had settled.

There is, of course, literature about Donbass and finds from here, but it is very scarce and concerns just large, poorly preserved trunks. These fossils definitely come from the Pennsylvanian of Carboniferous period (303.4 Ma).
I quickly looked through the information about Walchia - thanks for the tip, I will study.

Have a nice evening

 

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I continue to sort out the finds over the season and here are some more interesting stems from this place.


Heavily destroyed stem, but the core is clearly visible, which is broken off just at the extension (in the middle of the "barrel").

 

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Hello to all.
I noticed an interesting structure on two of my samples - you can see it on the end of the hemp.
Unfortunately, the second sample was burst along - but such a structure is visible on it; moreover, it has whorled knots.

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If at the end of the first hemp these structures differ only in color, then on this sample they are, as it were, pressed inward - you can feel it by touch.

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