Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) I got some marine mammal teeth from Kallo (near Antwerp) Belgium. I've tried to identify these, but find it difficult. Who knows more about this and wants to help me on my way? Squares in centimeters! I think the first three teeth are Delphinodon dividum (True 1912). Clear serrations and striking ''teardrop-shaped tooth crown'' Edited February 23, 2023 by Mart1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Of these five teeth, the leftmost big tooth I believe is PHOCIDAE (Gray, 182). The remaining four EURRHINODELPHINIDAE (Rice, 1998)?? Edited February 23, 2023 by Mart1980 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Five times EURRHINODELPHINIDA (Rice, 1998)? Edited February 23, 2023 by Mart1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) The next four small teeth I find complicated. The hooked teeth are unknown to me, the second from the right with the very small with large root. Anyone have an idea? Edited February 23, 2023 by Mart1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Small EURRHINODELPHINIDA (Rice, 1998)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Big EURRHINODELPHINIDA (Rice, 1998)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 @Boesse The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy's Dad Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Wow! What a lot of interesting teeth. Can't help you, but that's a jolly nice collection. Life's Good! Tortoise Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Hi, Boesse has already been called. You should indicate the size of the squares on your stand. Coco 1 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 This one is a bony fish tooth. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Al Dente said: This one is a bony fish tooth. Indeed, it bears great resemblance to Labrus sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 On 2/23/2023 at 2:52 PM, Mart1980 said: Five times EURRHINODELPHINIDA (Rice, 1998)? Edited yesterday at 02:53 PM by Mart1980 I am overwhelmed by the sheer number of teeth you wish to be identified. I will attempt to choose a couple I am most Interested in... The tooth on the far left. I found a 20 mm tooth tip in Sarasota county, Florida that seems an exact match but the whole tooth is likely twice the size of yours. Your tooth 2nd from right...might be the one on the far left. On 2/23/2023 at 2:45 PM, Mart1980 said: I got some marine mammal teeth from Kallo (near Antwerp) Belgium. Unsure, what you mean. Did you find them in a river or miocene layer? Did you buy them from a dealer? Do you have any provenance on any of these teeth? On 2/23/2023 at 2:59 PM, Mart1980 said: Big EURRHINODELPHINIDA (Rice, 1998)? May or may not be this tooth...I found last May in the Peace River , Florida. It is 51 mm and once again Likely Kentriodontidae . Long beaked Dolphin. Identification of these teeth is hard. All of my Dolphin teeth were found in South West Florida, but the dolphin species that produces these teeth like were numerous around the Miocene world. I also found a jaw and tooth from Delphinodon dividum (True 1912). Exciting. 1 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart1980 Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 17 hours ago, Shellseeker said: I am overwhelmed by the sheer number of teeth you wish to be identified. That is my enthusiasm, I have tried to determine them myself, but can find little documentation of dolphins from the region of Antwerp. So thank you very much for your comment! 17 hours ago, Shellseeker said: Your tooth 2nd from right...might be the one on the far left. It looks like a lot of Kentriodontidae. I agree with you, I had thought of that myself. However, I cannot find anywhere that Kentriodontidae has also been found in the region of Antwerp. It is of course likely that they also swam around there. The hooked teeth also seem Kentriodontidae to me, when I compare them with other teeth from this group from other locations. If I'm looking wrong or missing the information, I'd like to receive tips on articles about dolphins from the Antwerp region. 17 hours ago, Shellseeker said: Unsure, what you mean. Did you find them in a river or miocene layer? Did you buy them from a dealer? Do you have any provenance on any of these teeth? I got them from a collector from the antwerp region, with the information that they were found in the excavation of the Kallo harbor. Kallo is located on the banks of the Scheldt near Antwerp Belgium. Era: Neogene Epoch: Pliocene Formation: Kattendijk (very likely, because marine mammal remains are found there) 17 hours ago, Shellseeker said: May or may not be this tooth...I found last May in the Peace River , Florida. It is 51 mm and once again Likely Kentriodontidae . Long beaked Dolphin. Identification of these teeth is hard. All of my Dolphin teeth were found in South West Florida, but the dolphin species that produces these teeth like were numerous around the Miocene world. I also found a jaw and tooth from Delphinodon dividum (True 1912). Here too I see the resemblance to Kentriodontidae. But you are right that there are more species that suit this type of tooth. Hopefully someone knows more documentation about Western European Kentriodontidae, especially from around Antwerp. You've got some nice teeth, especially those of the Delphinodon dividum (True 1912). Thank you for thinking along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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