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Unknown fossil from the Vectis formation of Yaverland - Isle of Wight


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Hello!

 

I just came back from my first dream trip to the Isle of Wight. I found a lot of beautiful fossils, including an Iguanodon vertebra from Brook Bay, a lot of small teeth, bones from the Vectis and Wealden formation of Yaverland etc. I will post everything in a few days when I'm done preparing them.

 

In the meanwhile, I stumbled upon this in some matrix from the Vectis formation at Yaverland. It is in 3D and approximately 1 cm / 0.4 inch in length.

 

Would anyone be familiar with the Vectis formation and have an idea of what this could be?

 

Thank you!

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Hello, here are some pictures.

 

I still have no clue on what this might be... I don't want to keep digging around it and risk damaging it.

 

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Hi,

sorry, the only thing I can say is that this appears somehow toothlike to me, but thats just a gut feeling and probably wrong.

Best regards,

J

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I get an arthropod vibe from it, but I'm probably wrong.

 

 

Mark.

 

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In this state it doesn't look like anything I'd recognize. Sorry!

 

Maybe either @Notidanodon or @Haravex would have a suggestion? They're more familiar with hunting the formation...

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I'm stumped by this one however I can ask a friend who has collected on the isle a lot more than me he might have more of an idea, I'm not getting a tooth vibe from it, to me looks more bone or possibly even crustacean shell. 

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Thank you for your replies! It does look like other small bones found in this formation, but I can't figure out what it could be... Let's hope that your friend can help us. Tell me if you should need different pictures.

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Hello!

 

I also found these in another block from the same formation, also at Yaverland.

 

The tiny tooth measures 4mm.

The two long pieces measure 4cm (1.57 inch) and 2cm (0.79 inch). As you can see they are both sadly partially eroded, as they were already exposed on the side of the block when I picked it up.

 

I was able to expose the part of the longer piece that is not eroded. Is it bone or a (partial) tooth? It's shinier than the 2cm piece and the cells are less obvious on the eroded part.

 

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Yesss, it's a jaw!

 

Do you have an idea of what? Looks like fish, even though I'm hoping it's not. 

 

Here with some of the teeth exposed:

 

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On 9/27/2023 at 12:46 AM, jpc said:

the way it expands in the back end suggests fish to me.  as do the pointy teeth.  Still, nice jaw.  

 

Yeah, these characteristics also mark the jaw as fish for me... Really nice jaw, especially considering how hard the matrix is! :default_clap2:

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What is the matrix?  Is it carbonate to any extent?  If so, I wonder if a little acid prep (basically vinegar) might help to clean it up some.  That would not work for sandstone though.  Nice little jaw for sure!

 

Don

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19 hours ago, FossilDAWG said:

What is the matrix?  Is it carbonate to any extent?  If so, I wonder if a little acid prep (basically vinegar) might help to clean it up some.  That would not work for sandstone though.

 

Yes, I believe this matrix does contain carbonate...

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Yes it does contain carbonate! I managed to clean it a bit using vinegar, will post clean pictures soon.

 

In the meanwhile, I found another mystery. Looks like a tooth and measures 1,5cm (0.6 inch). There seems to still be a lot in the matrix.

 

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Thanks again! :) 

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23 hours ago, ADfossils said:

In the meanwhile, I found another mystery. Looks like a tooth and measures 1,5cm (0.6 inch). There seems to still be a lot in the matrix.

 

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Unfortunately, I'm not seeing a tooth here... I'm missing the shine typical of enamel, and don't recognize the shape either. My guess would be another bit of bone?

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Hello!

I cleaned it a bit more, it looks even stranger now:

Found a tiny fish vertebra next to it also, although these are really common.

 

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