mr.rod Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) Hello dear collectors & experts, I have purchased two beautiful new Mammuthus primigenius fossils, which I will describe in two separate topics. Here comes my very cool and huge fragment of a tusk. Key figures as by seller 39cm (15") long, circumference 47cm (18.5") 5.1kg (11.2lb) 20,000-50,000 years old North Sea, Netherlands I very much like it and would love to get your expertise about Authenticity More precise age estimate Your quality rating. Any restoration done? Thanks a lot. Edited December 28, 2023 by mr.rod forgot conversion to inches and pounds, age estimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 And a photo to see the size of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyw Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 WOW! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) THANKS a lot for your comments. I also love it, and am happy I can own a real piece of ancient ivory. Can anyone tell if it's authentic? The artifact itself as well as the prep look like high quality to me. Also, 20,000-50,000 years old is quite imprecise. Can anyone tell this more to the point? Edited December 28, 2023 by mr.rod thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Sorry, I can't help with authenticy, but time estimate 20,000-50,000 seems correct. Remember that formation might have gathered fossils for long time and when talking about 10,000 years scale its actually very accurate. Many material have estimates of millions or tens of millions years. Lab tests would be needed to change estimate, but it would make little difference. 1 There's no such thing as too many teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Does it have a thick coating of clear lacquer or consolidant? It appears so glossy. Is it? Franz Bernhard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 @FranzBernhard thanks for asking. I cannot tell as I have ordered them yesterday, thus I only have these photos, so far. I can upload additional photos as soon as I get the fossil, does that help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranzBernhard Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, mr.rod said: I can upload additional photos as soon as I get the fossil, does that help? Sure. And your personal inspection of the specimen . From the existing pics, I am expecting a rather thick coating. Its all for protecting the specimen, of course. Just don´t be disappointed - I don´t see any "natural" surface on the pics. Franz Berhard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) As it was found in salt water, I also assume the thick lacquer is to even better protect the fossil from air/oxygen and humidity. Edited December 28, 2023 by mr.rod typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) On 12/28/2023 at 12:52 AM, mr.rod said: As far as I understand the forum rules, I cannot post a link to a commercial website which has very similar items. My only aim is to check on authenticity - if theirs are authentic, so should be mine. But I guess it's allowed to post one of their photos, is it? If not, admins please delete this reply. Those are prepped in a very similar way, and the results look very similar too. Also from the North Sea like mine. Mine above for comparison. What do you think? Edited December 30, 2023 by mr.rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPrice Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) The photo of the "the size of it" is a bit deceiving despite the dimensions given, imo. A photo with a ruler would be more helpful were I the buyer. The diameter of the base is close to 6 inches/15 cm and the image makes it appear more like 12 inches/30 cm. Just saying...it looks bigger than it is by twice in that image. Edited December 30, 2023 by SPrice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorisVV Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Awesome tusk. I actually know the site and owners. They are reliable. Tusk part is real. Just maybe a little bit polished and an obvious protection layer which is heavily needed for Dutch North sea fossils/tusks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBkansas Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 12/30/2023 at 10:23 AM, SPrice said: The photo of the "the size of it" is a bit deceiving despite the dimensions given, imo. A photo with a ruler would be more helpful were I the buyer. Any pic of someone holding a fossil in front of themselves has this same illusion. Any time I see a seller do that I remind myself to look for the measurements to see the actual size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 (edited) My way to get some feeling of real size is simple: I use my custom PowerPoint/LibreOffice slide template in the size of my huge TV and place the photo in it with real measures. And whatever it looks on the photo on the website, I can tell it still looks huge in 1:1 scale on TV. Or you try to find a similarly sized item in your home, like a 5 Liter water bottle and compare. Edited January 3 by mr.rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Nothing will ever be worth the size information in cm or inches ! At least we’re sure we’re not mistaken... Coco 2 ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.rod Posted January 5 Author Share Posted January 5 (edited) To see the real size and minimize perspective distortion, on the bubble wrap photo I have moved back and used a tele lens. As promised a video of this beauty. I feel it looks veeery authentic and I really love it. Any thoughts on this? PXL_20240105_221236945.TS.nometa.na.remux.1280.mp4 Edited January 5 by mr.rod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I’ve never wanted another person’s fossil before. This is a new feeling. Might take time to process. It’s stunning! I watched every second of that video as closely as I could. Captivating. The clear coat must be a dip technique or something. Way to perfect and even. Unless they just sprayed loads of thin coats. Might be a type of epoxy or something hard enough to buff?? It’s absolutely beautifully done whatever it is. Especially on such a fragile surface!! Jp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorisVV Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 9 hours ago, Balance said: I’ve never wanted another person’s fossil before. This is a new feeling. Might take time to process. It’s stunning! I watched every second of that video as closely as I could. Captivating. The clear coat must be a dip technique or something. Way to perfect and even. Unless they just sprayed loads of thin coats. Might be a type of epoxy or something hard enough to buff?? It’s absolutely beautifully done whatever it is. Especially on such a fragile surface!! Jp Paraloid B72 with a mix of aceton 10% maybe? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorisVV Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Beautiful and chunky tusk. Indeed polished as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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