flowntheloop Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) Yesterday, I spent about 30-45 minutes sitting in a pile of mud/rocks and practicing breaking apart softer rocks with a hammer and chisel (a little closer to shale--pretty easy to split into layers--but I'm not sure?) to see what I could find. This was one of the prettiest things I found! Northeast Alabama, US. Pottsville Formation. Thank you for your patience with my lack of knowledge. I'm currently waiting for a paycheck so I can purchase a book that will hopefully decrease my posts here! Edited February 26 by flowntheloop location 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collector9658 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Can't help with ID, but great find! I think the more posts on the forum, the merrier! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Very cool fossil. I vote for some sort of Neuropteris sp. @paleoflor @fiddlehead Some close-ups and reversed images: 1 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowntheloop Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 @Fossildude19 Oh that reversed image is a great idea! Thank you for making me aware of that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Possibly, Sphenopteris, but let's wait for a few others to chime in. 1 Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Definitely some neuropterid. Difficult to ID from photo without a good sense of scale. What is the vein density, for example? The dissertation of J.-P. Laveine (1967) is a good reference for neuropterids (here are the text and atlas volumes). 2 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowntheloop Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 33 minutes ago, paleoflor said: Definitely some neuropterid. Difficult to ID from photo without a good sense of scale. What is the vein density, for example? The dissertation of J.-P. Laveine (1967) is a good reference for neuropterids (here are the text and atlas volumes). Thanks! I can take some photos for scale today! I will post them ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntloux Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I can't tell if the pinnules radiate from one point or not. But the spread suggests a possible neuropteris. Or it could possibly be a cyclopteris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I'm leaning towards Eusphenopteris neuropteroides. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 3/2/2024 at 8:37 PM, Mark Kmiecik said: I'm leaning towards Eusphenopteris neuropteroides. This ID doesn't fit with the shape and large size of the terminal pinnules relative to the lateral pinnules of the ultimate pinnae. Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 59 minutes ago, paleoflor said: This ID doesn't fit with the shape and large size of the terminal pinnules relative to the lateral pinnules of the ultimate pinnae. What do you think about Eusphenopteris trifoliolata as a possibility? Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, Mark Kmiecik said: What do you think about Eusphenopteris trifoliolata as a possibility? To be honest, I do not think the specimen under consideration is an Eusphenopteris but rather some neuropterid, as initially suggested by @Fossildude19. Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Sphenopteris neuropteroides from Germany. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) Taxonomy and nomenclature of Sphenopteris and allied fossil-genera of Carboniferous seed-plant fronds Christopher J. Cleal, Barry A. Thomas Pages: 862-879 TAXON, aug. 2023 First Published: 29 May 2023 size: 4.4 mB TAXON - 2023 - Cleal - Taxonomy and nomenclature of Sphenopteris and allied fossil‐genera of Carboniferous seed‐plant.pdf Edited March 16 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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