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Concretion with Fossil inside


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I found this concretion with something inside, looks like half of a nodule with something bone alike. Found it while sifting for Miocene shark teeth in a clay quarry in the Antwerp region in Belgium. I think the gravel i'm sifting is Pleistocene with reworked Miocene as i've found pieces of Mammoth bark in it as well.

This piece leaves me clueless tho..

 

The concretion measures 9cm x 5cm

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sorry about the poor quality pics, that's the best i can get out of my smartphone...

 

Thx!

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Looks like a fish operculum/preopercular.

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Its just a theory, dont take this to seriously.

If shark teeth are known from this formation, then it was once an ocean? And maybe this is a marine mammals bone (fragment?) which a concretion formed around maybe ? I know that this can happen, because i was hunting really often in the Gramer Clay quarry in Denmark, which has the same age and crab and bone concretions are known from there. So maybe it is one. 

@Boesse is an expert whith marine mammal fossils. Maybe He can Help more.

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Wouldn't the curvature and texture be seen in a turtle humerus? 

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10 minutes ago, Rockwood said:

Wouldn't the curvature and texture be seen in a turtle humerus? 

Doesn't look very inflated to me.  Looks more flat, and textured more like a fish bone.

I don't see any resemblance to a turtle humerus.

 

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27 minutes ago, Brevicolis said:

Its just a theory, dont take this to seriously.

If shark teeth are known from this formation, then it was once an ocean? And maybe this is a marine mammals bone (fragment?) which a concretion formed around maybe ? I know that this can happen, because i was hunting really often in the Gramer Clay quarry in Denmark, which has the same age and crab and bone concretions are known from there. So maybe it is one. 

@Boesse is an expert whith marine mammal fossils. Maybe He can Help more.

The gravel is actually loaded with marine mammal bone, so that would be very likely. First time finding it inside a concretion tho.

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41 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said:

Looks like a fish operculum/preopercular.

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I guess Miocene herring it is 😏 thx!

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The bone quality looks fishy.  I think preopercular is a good guess.  

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interesting find, these nodules are really not common, rare one. Preoperculum is my idea, too. Do you plan do glue it together and prep from one side? Would perhaps help to identify the species

might be it is reworked material, transported while the ice age from britain. Reminds me to sheppey or more to the boxstones from Suffolk

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