SteveE Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) EDIT - Mistaken title. This from the underlying formation, the Mississippian Maunch Chunk. (oopsie daisie) This doesn't match the area's semi-abundant Lepidodendron or Sigillaria or their roots (Stigmaria)... and it doesn't look like Cordaites or Calamites and I'm at a loss to ID the rectangular pattern here. Help, anyone? (Note two fingers of my leather glove on left for scale) Edited March 29 by SteveE Note corrected formation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Hmm... touch one! Might be related to desiccation of some wood, perhaps? Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 10 minutes ago, paleoflor said: Hmm... touch one! Might be related to desiccation of some wood, perhaps? Touch one? Huh? Are you thinking this might actually be contemporary staining from recent cellulose decomp? Nope. The pattern is in the sandstone itself. Not modern. I picked this rock up and handled it, but left it on the mountain. May have to retrieve it after all, if I can find it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Maybe a bit of fossil plant/wood showing decorticated underlayers? 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Fossildude19 said: "decorticated underlayers" Cool, a new word to learn, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 10 minutes ago, SteveE said: Touch one? Huh? Are you thinking this might actually be contemporary staining from recent cellulose decomp? Nope. The pattern is in the sandstone itself. Not modern. I picked this rock up and handled it, but left it on the mountain. May have to retrieve it after all, if I can find it again. Sorry, typo. I meant tough one... And no, not recent but fossil wood. The imprint reminds me a bit of the checkered patterns you sometimes see in "shrinkwood". 1 1 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 10 minutes ago, paleoflor said: Sorry, typo. I meant tough one... And no, not recent but fossil wood. The imprint reminds me a bit of the checkered patterns you sometimes see in "shrinkwood". Thanks for the laugh! Excellent typo! Never heard of "shrinkwood"; interesting guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Kmiecik Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 The "pattern" is quite irregular. I don't think this is wood of any kind. However, I'm at a loss as to what it might be. Mark. Fossil hunting is easy -- they don't run away when you shoot at them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Just now, Mark Kmiecik said: The "pattern" is quite irregular. I don't think this is wood of any kind. However, I'm at a loss as to what it might be. Ok, that settles it.,.... I regret classifying it as leverite, and will attempt to find it again. Fortunately, the site is spitting distance out my back door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I don't have a better specimen nor better photo, unfortunately, but it sort of shows what I meant... If you look at the exterior of this limb (Dadoxylon-like wood from Permian of Brazil) you'll notice that there is considerable checkering of the rind. In this mineralised specimen, the incised cracks have been filled with white chalcedony and then the rind has been differentially weathered so that the chalcedony stands out somewhat from the rest of the wood now. Such a pattern of square cracking is called "alligatoring", I believe, and can be caused by processes such as charring (fire damage), extensive desiccation (drying shrinkage) or coalification. You sometimes see similar patterns in coalified wood. 2 Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Recently posted, vaguely similar fossil. 2 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahnmut Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Hi, Talking about "shrinkwood", the rectangular patterns reminded me of some kinds of dry rot. I have no idea if the palnts in queston here even had the underlying structure to decay like that, but I´ll lazily link to another thread where I wrote about it: https://www.thefossilforum.com/topic/102046-what-cut-this-petrified-wood/#comment-1133533 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_rot Best regards, J Try to learn something about everything and everything about something Thomas Henry Huxley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Here is some Pennsylvanian cordaitid wood with a similar pattern: 3 1 Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 On 3/27/2024 at 4:30 PM, Mahnmut said: Hi, Talking about "shrinkwood", the rectangular patterns reminded me of some kinds of dry rot. I have no idea if the palnts in queston here even had the underlying structure to decay like that, Well little or no lignin back then, I think. Wonder if that's an ingredient to patterning dry rot like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 19 hours ago, Missourian said: Here is some Pennsylvanian cordaitid wood with a similar pattern: That's a pretty neat sample, thanks. Certainly seems like a maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 UPDATE: I retrieved the rock and OOPS.... instead of Carbonifereous Pottsville now I think its late Devonian Mauch Chunk... quarzitic sandstone with small bits of iron or mangenese weathering away.... so could this pattern really be boxwork related to that? Notice how the black grains are concentrated in the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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