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Lrg Bone Frag ID. Peace River, FL (4/24)


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Hey all! (Part 2)

Requesting your help identifying a some fun larger bone fragments found by @jcor246 and me down on the ol’ Peace River, FL. 
 

(For brevity, separate ID posts featuring the non-toothy specimens collected on this outing will follow shortly.🆔🆘)

 

Thanks,

 

Jena and Josh

 

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Nice day of non tooth stuff!

 

1 is a chunk of bone. Not much I see otherwise to distinguish. 
 

2 -4 are all dugong rib bones. Various wear and decay. 
 

5 is a scaphoid. Probably camelid. 
 

6-10 need more photos of all the sides and articulation locations. Here are a few photos I use for quick ID of shape before I go into the rabbit holes. 
 

Bison 

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Deer

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Tapir 

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Horse

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and a couple extra handy images from Harry. 
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Last is a 

 

Camel.                Cow.                   Horse

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Thanks for posting all those balance!  I’ll have to save all those for future reference.

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-Jay

 

 

“The earth doesn't need new continents, but new men.”
― Jules Verne, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea

 

 

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On 5/1/2024 at 4:15 PM, Balance said:

Nice day of non tooth stuff!

 

1 is a chunk of bone. Not much I see otherwise to distinguish. 
 

2 -4 are all dugong rib bones. Various wear and decay. 
 

5 is a scaphoid. Probably camelid. 
 

6-10 need more photos of all the sides and articulation locations. Here are a few photos I use for quick ID of shape before I go into the rabbit holes. 
 

Bison 

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Deer

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Tapir 

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Horse

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and a couple extra handy images from Harry. 
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Last is a 

 

Camel.                Cow.                   Horse

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Thank you so much @Balance for your input and these incredible resources! 
 

WOW 🤯 Camelid- incredible and not something I would have considered! Definitely a personal reminder of just how much more biodiversity there was among prehistoric mammals than today.

 

Quick follow-up question for you and @Harry Pristis regarding bone #1. Given how big this fragment is and the large spongey core texture, I’d assumed this must be from the XXL megafauna- whale, mammoth, mastodon. Is that a safe conclusion or would you consider other possibilities?

 

 

You’re awesome. Thanks again guys!

 

Jena

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On 5/1/2024 at 5:40 PM, Jaybot said:

Thanks for posting all those balance!  I’ll have to save all those for future reference.

I agree!

 

Thanks @Balance.  Super useful post.

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I’m afraid I don’t have any ability to discern further.
 

In order to become a massive piece of bone I would consider it probable it came from a much larger bone. When you get into bones of large scale you narrow down the mammals but there are still whales, tortoises …  

 

Jp

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4 minutes ago, Balance said:

I’m afraid I don’t have any ability to discern further.
 

In order to become a massive piece of bone I would consider it probable it came from a much larger bone. When you get into bones of large scale you narrow down the mammals but there are still whales, tortoises …  

 

Jp

And giant sloths as big as an elephant, and giant bison.

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And mammoths, mastodons, rhinos...

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2 hours ago, fossilus said:

And giant sloths as big as an elephant, and giant bison.

Thank you!
 

I knew they were big but had no idea their skeletal scale and bone density was on par with the xxl giants! Love those additional possibilities. 
 

Jena

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1 hour ago, Brandy Cole said:

And mammoths, mastodons, rhinos...

Rhinos!! Yet another massive suspect I hadn’t considered. 
 

Thank you @Brandy Cole!

 

Jena
 

 

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Cute little buggers. 
 

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 Found a knee cap. Patella. That’s it. 😂😂 It’s sad and great how happy this thing makes me when I pick it up   

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@Balance Not sad in the slightest! You’re clearly among friends- I personally find myself routinely blissed out and feeling grounded after handling even the smallest, smoothest of bone pebbles!! Haha. 

 

Ok… It’s late and I might be a bit loopy 😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️ (or just generally prone to finding the profound in what most consider mundane haha 🥹🤓), but can we all agree that the fact we’re the first humans to hold in our hand any physical trace of some giant sentient being that once shared the waterways we still navigate today, but is so alien and ancient that it has never been seen by modern man, is incredibly humbling and downright mind boggling!


Florida is a remarkably bizarre time warp. Most folks definitely don’t get touch megafauna and Megalodons on the reg like we do on The Peace. #blessed

 

🌀🌀🦣🦬🐫🦏🦈🐋🌀🌀

 

Thanks again, all! More detail pics and new boney bits to come. 
 

Best,

 

Jena

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