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L.S.,

 

Found the specimen below last weekend in the Late Carboniferous of Germany. You can see a quite large portion of some neuropterid frond, including a petiole with basal bifurcation, at least three Cyclopteris leaves, and several parts of pinna and pinnules (made a little sketch). Amazingly, the width of view on the photo is only about 7 cm. I never saw a neuropterid frond that is this tiny before! There could very well be more of it hidden underneath the rock on the left, but it is quite fragile and I haven't yet mustered the courage to try and prep it further... 

 

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Tim

 

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Lovely find, Tim! :)

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Very nice (and tiny)! Congrats on the cool find. :) 

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Nice find :plant:

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Congrats on finding that. I have a real soft spot for plant fossils.

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N. ovata has rather small pinnules and overall dimensions. I can't make out any of the venation on the few pinnules that are complete. I have a specimen of N. ovata that is a match for this one's size.

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On 5/24/2024 at 9:24 PM, Mark Kmiecik said:

N. ovata has rather small pinnules and overall dimensions. I can't make out any of the venation on the few pinnules that are complete. I have a specimen of N. ovata that is a match for this one's size.

 

Interesting! Would like to see a photo of your specimen, if possible. 

 

The specimen above was collected from a roofshale that also contains Neuropteris ovata (see some examples below), so your suggestion is certainly plausible. Unlike the specimen above, however, these other examples show pinnules with a characteristic basiscopic auricle. The pinnules of the specimen above seem to lack this diagnostic feature of N. ovata. On the other hand, this could be related to the small size (i.e., not fully developed condition) of the pinnules, I guess...

 

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Beautiful! :fern2::b_love1:

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This is the specimen I spoke of.

 

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21 hours ago, Mark Kmiecik said:

This is the specimen I spoke of.

 

Thanks for the photo! Nice specimen. It shows the characteristic "earlobes" of N. ovata. However, I think your specimen is a bipinnate fragment of a much larger frond (or at least I do not recognize any basal bifurcation or petiole).

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