Foshunter Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I know enough about Pleistocene fossils to be dangerous. Found in the Sulphur River and have not a clue to whom it belonged, could have broken off Tracers mystery bone. I did take it to the Tampa Fossil Show and let this vendor, who had one of every Pleistocene bone ever found in Florida for sale, take a look and replied looked like a camel tooth on steroids. Any body have a clue what it is?--Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovician_Odyssey Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 it resembles a horse molar -Shamus The Ordovician enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) This is a camelid tooth. I would have to agree... this animal was on some type of growth hormones. Edited September 8, 2010 by PrehistoricFlorida www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 that's really cool! and i don't know what it would be if it wasn't camelid. maybe it's camelops megadentus i just made that up. feel free to use it if it's a new species... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 that's really cool! and i don't know what it would be if it wasn't camelid. maybe it's camelops megadentus i just made that up. feel free to use it if it's a new species... I was hoping to get a rise out of you--that's Texas lingo too.--Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Length and width of the crown at the occlusal surface would be useful. This may be Megatylopus sp., a giant camel that lived in the Mio-Pliocene of Florida and of Texas. Here's a comparison of toe bones: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefootgirl Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Very nice find! In formal logic, a contradiction is the signal of defeat: but in the evolution of real knowledge, it marks the first step in progress toward victory. Alfred North Whithead 'Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's a cool tooth. Recently, I saw a camel tooth that size ID'ed as Camelops from the Kern County, California tar pits. Length and width of the crown at the occlusal surface would be useful. This may be Megatylopus sp., a giant camel that lived in the Mio-Pliocene of Florida and of Texas. Here's a comparison of toe bones: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's a cool tooth. Recently, I saw a camel tooth that size ID'ed as Camelops from the Kern County, California tar pits. Camelops is as good a guess as Megatylopus, perhaps better. Camelops is common, while Megatylopus is not. I'd still like to know the dimensions. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted September 9, 2010 Author Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Camelops is as good a guess as Megatylopus, perhaps better. Camelops is common, while Megatylopus is not. I'd still like to know the dimensions. I hope this is the measurements you need. across both crowns is 1 11/16 (43mm) and from back to front of a single crown looking at tthe top it is 1 inch even (26mm). In the Sulphur River Collectors Guide book there is a picture on the last page of a Musk Ox skull found there(pictured) what do the teeth look like as I have never been bitten by one and is a possibility of a match? --Tom Edited September 9, 2010 by Foshunter Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I hope this is the measurements you need. across both crowns is 1 11/16 (43mm) and from back to front of a single crown looking at tthe top it is 1 inch even (26mm). In the Sulphur River Collectors Guide book there is a picture on the last page of a Musk Ox skull found there(pictured) what do the teeth look like as I have never been bitten by one and is a possibility of a match? --Tom Your tooth doesn't strike me as bovid (musk ox), but I have no experience with musk ox teeth. Anything is possible. Interesting (but not dispositive), the lower molar measurements for Megatylopus primaevus (from Texas) are: M1 length x width . . . . . . . . . . 34.0 x 18.8 mm M2 L x W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43/0 x 21.0 mm M3 L x W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50.8 x 20.0 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 A few years ago, a flea market dealer showed me what he claimed was a fossil musk ox tooth (Pleistocene, Cherokee County, Iowa). Musk oxen had reached that far south during the Pleistocene. It looked like a bison tooth to me so I asked him how to distinguish bison from musk ox. He didn't know, saying it was ID'ed by the source who seemed very knowledgeable. He had some bison teeth as well though I wondered if they were just modern bovid. I should have bought it but didn't. Thinking about buying it just out of curiosity, I went to that flea market the following month but he had sold it. I have large camel tooth from the Pliocene of Nebraska (Broadwater fauna) and will try to get a photo of it. A friend thinks that's a Megatylopus. Your tooth doesn't strike me as bovid (musk ox), but I have no experience with musk ox teeth. Anything is possible. Interesting (but not dispositive), the lower molar measurements for Megatylopus primaevus (from Texas) are: M1 length x width . . . . . . . . . . 34.0 x 18.8 mm M2 L x W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43/0 x 21.0 mm M3 L x W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50.8 x 20.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I agree with Megatylopus sp. Megatylopus wiki By the way, in the article, talks about "A single specimen was examined for estimated body mass by M. Mendoza, C. M. Janis, and P. Palmqvist. This specimen was estimated to weigh 1,698.4 kg (3,700 lb)". I met doctopr Palmqvist once in a conference, and he was qa nice guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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