LordTrilobite Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 This nautiloid is from Kinnekulle in Southern Sweden. In that perticular quarry you normaly find lots of trilobites and straight Orthocones. This is the first I've seen from that location that is spiral-shaped. It's from the lower Ordovician. The diameter is about 3 cm. I can't seem to find any information about early nautiloids from that general location on the internet or in books. So I was wondering if any of you have an idea. Any help would be appreciated. Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinodigger Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 This is absolutely stunning. Love it. Unfortunately I have more of a reptilian and amphibian background, so I can't offer any help there. However, I do like the name "Swedish Cephalopod" so I am going to use that as my nickname for this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 I`ve seen some similar stuff in one of my guides...Let me see is if I can find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovician_Odyssey Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 i can strait out say its some sort of curled shell sephalopod(obviose) maybe a hamite -Shamus The Ordovician enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 This nautiloid is from Kinnekulle in Southern Sweden. In that perticular quarry you normaly find lots of trilobites and straight Orthocones. This is the first I've seen from that location that is spiral-shaped. It's from the lower Ordovician. The diameter is about 3 cm. I can't seem to find any information about early nautiloids from that general location on the internet or in books. So I was wondering if any of you have an idea. Any help would be appreciated. If your command of German is good enough, I'd suggest you log in here: http://www.steinkern.de/forum/index.php Go to the Threads on the Palaeozoicum and you'll meet some nice, helpful and knowledeable fellows there who may be able to help you further. I specialize more in the Jurassic, so I'm afraid I can't help you much here myself. Good luck, Roger. Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovician_Odyssey Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 nevermind, hamites were way later then the ordavician, but is is some sort of cephalopod -Shamus The Ordovician enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) i can strait out say its some sort of curled shell sephalopod(obviose) maybe a hamite When I google hamite, I get hamites Ammonites. My fossil however is not an Ammonite. They didn't exist in the Ordovician. Finding information about Ammonites isn't that difficult generally, but early Nautiloids are a lot harder to find. If your command of German is good enough, I'd suggest you log in here: http://www.steinkern.de/forum/index.php Go to the Threads on the Palaeozoicum and you'll meet some nice, helpful and knowledeable fellows there who may be able to help you further. I specialize more in the Jurassic, so I'm afraid I can't help you much here myself. Good luck, Roger. Alas, I can only understand some German. I could hardly form a sentence. Edited September 15, 2010 by LordTrilobite Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Found this googling - maybe a step in the right direction? My link See if any of these fit! Regards, Upon further looking - maybe Aphetoceras? Edited September 15, 2010 by Fossildude19 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Thanks, Ill have a look around with those names. Edit: No I don't think Aphetoceras fits completely, as it says that one is from North America and Australia, while mine is European. Estonioceras seems to better fit the fossil. As far as I know Estonia has a lot of similar fossils compared to Sweden. Edited September 15, 2010 by LordTrilobite Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandomas Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 According with Palle Gravensen it seems Estonioceras sp. Erosion... will be my epitaph! http://www.paleonature.org/ https://fossilnews.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 According with Palle Gravensen it seems Estonioceras sp. ...or Boionautilus... Boionautilus pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) ...or Boionautilus... Boionautilus pdf It says that one is from the Silurian though, much later. I think I'll put it under Estonioceras sp. Thanks for the help everyone. Edited September 16, 2010 by LordTrilobite Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nala Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 It says that one is from the Silurian though, much later. I think I'll put it under Estonioceras sp. Thanks for the help everyone. Hello LordTrilobite,this is my Estonioceras from Oland Sweden Ordovician and a artistic picture about it that i found on the web!regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted September 16, 2010 Author Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Yes that does look quite similar. Though it seems that one is fatter. The one I have from Kinnekulle is more roundish in cross section. Though I have another Nautiloid which is also from Öland that is more eliptical in cross section like yours seems to be. But Öland also has many similar finds to that of Kinnekulle. Really wonderfull fossil btw. Edited September 16, 2010 by LordTrilobite Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandomas Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 here two example photos from Palle Gravensen book "Fossiliensammeln in Südskandinavien" The grey one is Estonioceras sp. from Ordovician, Osterplana, Orthocerenkalk, Kinnekulle, Narke, more than 2 inches in lenght The color one, from Lower Ordovician (Oland - Tremadoc or Arenig), is labeled Estonioceras cf. decheni from South of Byerums Raukar Erosion... will be my epitaph! http://www.paleonature.org/ https://fossilnews.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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