clemsonskulls Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I have got a collection of Brazilian insects. I am not sure how to set a description on each, so I am only attaching the picture. Maybe I will figure out how to describe each at some point. So for now.... I also have a beautiful dragonfly and cicada, and few more other specimens, that I have to scan. Maybe post it later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleecan Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That is a beautiful collection of insects and possibly rare as there is a ban on exports of fossils from Brazil... I assume these came from Santana formation.... Thanks for sharing the images of your collection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markovic Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Very nice! Most of the specimens can be discerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleozoicfish Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That is a beautiful collection of insects and possibly rare as there is a ban on exports of fossils from Brazil... I assume these came from Santana formation.... Thanks for sharing the images of your collection! The Crato Formation produces these lovely insects. -PzF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 clemsonskulls....WOW!.... You have some beautiful specimens there... I would imagine maybe someone has done a study on this stunning material and has written a paper on it and published it... If you google the formation something may come up that you could use to ID your collection....Thanks for sharing those... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here are some ID's incase you needed help: (I'll ID down to the order and possibly common name): In the order you've uploaded the pics: Insect 20: Ephemeroptera - Mayfly nymph 1: Probably Ephemeroptera nymph nymph 2: Probably Odonata (dragonfly) nymph, fairly rare Insect 23: Waterbug, under Hemiptera Insect 19: Probable Ephemeroptera Insect 18: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 2: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 3: Hymenoptera - Flying Ant Insect 4: Not sure, probably Cockroach Insect 5: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 6: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 7: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 8: Hymenoptera - Wasp-like Insect 9: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 10: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 12: Hemiptera - Waterbug Insect 11: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 13: Hemiptera - Cicadid Insect 14: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 15: Isoptera - Termite Insect 16: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 16 db: Neuroptera - Lacewing, Hemiptera - True bug Insect 21: Hemiptera - True bug Insect 22: Orthoptera - Grasshopper -YvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markovic Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here are some ID's incase you needed help: (I'll ID down to the order and possibly common name): In the order you've uploaded the pics: Insect 20: Ephemeroptera - Mayfly nymph 1: Probably Ephemeroptera nymph nymph 2: Probably Odonata (dragonfly) nymph, fairly rare Insect 23: Waterbug, under Hemiptera Insect 19: Probable Ephemeroptera Insect 18: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 2: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 3: Hymenoptera - Flying Ant Insect 4: Not sure, probably Cockroach Insect 5: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 6: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 7: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 8: Hymenoptera - Wasp-like Insect 9: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 10: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 12: Hemiptera - Waterbug Insect 11: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 13: Hemiptera - Cicadid Insect 14: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 15: Isoptera - Termite Insect 16: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 16 db: Neuroptera - Lacewing, Hemiptera - True bug Insect 21: Hemiptera - True bug Insect 22: Orthoptera - Grasshopper -YvW I agree with veomega. Except maybe for nymph 2. Dragonflies have reduced wings in their larval stages, and much shorter antennae. This looks more like Orthoptera (Ensifera). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsonskulls Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 Here are some ID's incase you needed help: (I'll ID down to the order and possibly common name): In the order you've uploaded the pics: Insect 20: Ephemeroptera - Mayfly nymph 1: Probably Ephemeroptera nymph nymph 2: Probably Odonata (dragonfly) nymph, fairly rare Insect 23: Waterbug, under Hemiptera Insect 19: Probable Ephemeroptera Insect 18: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 2: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 3: Hymenoptera - Flying Ant Insect 4: Not sure, probably Cockroach Insect 5: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 6: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 7: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 8: Hymenoptera - Wasp-like Insect 9: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 10: Blattodea - Cockroach Insect 12: Hemiptera - Waterbug Insect 11: Orthoptera - Grasshopper Insect 13: Hemiptera - Cicadid Insect 14: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 15: Isoptera - Termite Insect 16: Neuroptera - Lacewing Insect 16 db: Neuroptera - Lacewing, Hemiptera - True bug Insect 21: Hemiptera - True bug Insect 22: Orthoptera - Grasshopper -YvW Veomega Thanks for your help in identifying these insects. I have done some work in investigating their identities, and would welcome your thoughts, as well as any other members, on some of them. I agree with your identification of 1, 3, 5, 10, 11, 13, 16, 16db, 19, and 20. Further I think 5 is a long-horned grasshopper (Family Tettigoniidae), and 16 may be an owlfly (Family Ascalaphidae). 2 is tough. I was thinking it may be a cricket, Orthoptera and Gryllotalpidae. 4, 8, 9, and 15 may be Homoptera, Cicadellidae. 6 looks like a katydid, Orthoptera. 7 may be Diptera (I think the wings ID this one). 12, and 21, pretty sure are water bugs, Heteroptera, and 23 you have as a water bug, but I have seen these three listed in Order Heteroptera. I have to find the reference now to verify this. 14, I have seen a similar specimen identified as a dragonfly, though the wings just don't seem right. 18, possibly a bee fly, Diptera, Bombyliidae. I would welcome a discussion on my identifications. Thanks to all on your comments on my post. Clemsonskulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Very, very nice Crato collection "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsonskulls Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 It looks like Heteroptera is a Suborder of Hemiptera, so the water bugs are Order Hemiptera, Suborder Heteroptera. Should have checked this closer. Does anyone have anything to add to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossilcollector Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Veomega Thanks for your help in identifying these insects. I have done some work in investigating their identities, and would welcome your thoughts, as well as any other members, on some of them. I agree with your identification of 1, 3, 5, 10, 11, 13, 16, 16db, 19, and 20. Further I think 5 is a long-horned grasshopper (Family Tettigoniidae), and 16 may be an owlfly (Family Ascalaphidae). 2 is tough. I was thinking it may be a cricket, Orthoptera and Gryllotalpidae. 4, 8, 9, and 15 may be Homoptera, Cicadellidae. 6 looks like a katydid, Orthoptera. 7 may be Diptera (I think the wings ID this one). 12, and 21, pretty sure are water bugs, Heteroptera, and 23 you have as a water bug, but I have seen these three listed in Order Heteroptera. I have to find the reference now to verify this. 14, I have seen a similar specimen identified as a dragonfly, though the wings just don't seem right. 18, possibly a bee fly, Diptera, Bombyliidae. I would welcome a discussion on my identifications. Thanks to all on your comments on my post. Clemsonskulls Ya, looking at 2 again I'd place it in orthoptera as well. 9 is definitely a cockroach, you can tell by the hairy legs. 15 is termite, isoptera. 14 definitely lace wing - neuroptera. You can tell by the two trailing things behind the 4 wings. -YvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markovic Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 18 is most likely a cockroach, look at it's legs, tibia have thorny chitin appendages, Diptera don't have these structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovician_Odyssey Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 top right hand corner is a Gryllidae=cricket -Shamus The Ordovician enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordovician_Odyssey Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 where are you getting the numbers from? -Shamus The Ordovician enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsonskulls Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 Shamus If you hold your cursor over the picture, it will then show a number. When you say top right corner (the order seems to have changed on my view), do you mean the insect that shows nymph2 when you put the cursor over the picture? Clemsonskulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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