sander Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 hello, I am a new member on this forum, just wrote in, my name is Sander and I'm from the Netherlands. I have a question which people could answer on www.fossiel.net and I was send here by someone there becasue according to him, you guys here love ichno-fossils. here's the question: could this be a footprint? and from what? it was found in the Muschelkalk from the Winterswijk quarry, so it must be around 240 million years old, it's Anisian in age. normally I would say something like alvast bedankt, but I don't know the whole translation of it so i'll stay with just thanks, greetings, sander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hello Sander and welcome to TFF! I'm not positive on your fossil identification although I'm sure someone here will have the answer. It's a cool fossil whatever it might be. Thanks for the great photos from the Netherlands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Welcome to the Forum, Sander This is an interesting piece; am I correct that these are the "positive" and "negative" halves? We several members who can offer good opinions on ichnofossils; they should be by to comment before too long. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 Welcome to the Forum, Sander This is an interesting piece; am I correct that these are the "positive" and "negative" halves? We several members who can offer good opinions on ichnofossils; they should be by to comment before too long. thanks Piranha and Auspex, and yup, these are both halves. if you like seeing more from winterswijk I can post more of my finds Piranha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 We LOVE photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhk Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) Looks to me like a small theropod (carnivorous). I need to know the age of the sediment and the depth of the print. Also look at the "toe" tips and tell me if you have anything like a claw impression. Looks promising. Size would indicate a Grallator track which were made by a dinosaurs such as Coelophysis which are common in northern Europe about 200 - 230 million years ago. Edited December 1, 2010 by dhk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 the sediment is 240 million years old, its lower Muschelkalk, its stage is Anisian. the footprint is between 1 and 2 millimeter deep and has 2 toes (the middle thing is something else) and I don't see claw inmpressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Dear Sander, As you probably know footprint of Saurier species are found in the Muschelkalk of Winterswijk, The Netherlands. I am sorry but it is not my speciality, but there are some persons specialized on this topic in our country. regards, Han Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 I know that han, the problem is that there aren't footprint discovered like this one there. do the specialists have an idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesta384 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 That thing is so cool! I hope you get conformation on it soon. welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 That thing is so cool! I hope you get conformation on it soon. welcome to the forum! yes, I hope I get to know what it is, and thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted December 9, 2010 Author Share Posted December 9, 2010 no more thoughts of what it is/could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesta384 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 no more thoughts of what it is/could be? any luck with an ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I know that han, the problem is that there aren't footprint discovered like this one there. do the specialists have an idea? Hi Sander, Nothing against this forum (which is absolutely fantastic), but if you are looking for experts, have you tried contacting some of the specialists within our own country? There is a subgroup within the Dutch Geological Society (Nederlandse Geologische Vereniging) dedicated solely to the Winterswijk quarry. I am confident these people can help you with your ID. For example, try contacting H.W. Oosterink (his contact info can be found here, at the bottom of the page). A bit about the geology of Winterswijk can be found here (and Google Translate might help getting the message across to non-Dutch speakers). Best regards, Tim Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 any luck with an ID? hi, im back from a break, and no unfortunately it appears to be nothing, altough i haven't let a specialist look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phytosaur Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 What kind of paleoenvironment does this come from? if it was from ocean sediments or something like that you wouldnt get ichnofossils from dinosaurs. I collect in the late triassic, in a paleoenvironment representative of rift valleys and mudflats, perfect for preservation of footprints. If this was a footprint i would think that there would be a third toe somewhere. it doesnt look like a grallator to me because the "toes" are too widely spaced out, but there are probably many different trackmakers in europe at your time of the triassic besides grallator. To me it looks like mud cracks, or root marks which resemble a footprint, but of course i don't know anything about the triassic of europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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