Dave pom Allen Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I have had this bone sitting in the back of the shed for a couple of years and was looking at it today and came up with this idea that it is a Coracoid of a bony tooth bird it is 115+mm Can any of my good friends out there make there opinions and put me straight if i am mistaken. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinopaleus Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I have had this bone sitting in the back of the shed for a couple of years and was looking at it today and came up with this idea that it is a Coracoid of a bony tooth bird it is 115+mm Can any of my good friends out there make there opinions and put me straight if i am mistaken. Dave well how old is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave pom Allen Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 sorry late miocene - pliocene from nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 It is absolutely a coracoid, and a monster at that! The size alone brings Pelagornis into consideration, but I haven't any reference at hand to compare the morphology. Looks like I have my day's research project spelled out! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Here are some pictures of the pectoral elements of Pelagornis chilensis: From "Osteology of a new giant bony-toothed bird from the Miocene of Chile, with a revision of the taxonomy of Neogene Pelagornithidae" (GERALD MAYR; DAVID RUBILAR-Rogers), in The Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology: >Link to Article<. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 While the NZ coracoid is certainly in the size range of Pelagornis, it appears to have quite a few differences with P. chilensis. The coracoid morphology of Macrodontopteryx is pretty similar to P. chilensis, suggesting that the differences observed in this NZ specimen may place it outside Pelagornithidae. I don't have any photos of Albatross coracoids, but that would be a good place to start. Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave pom Allen Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 (edited) Thanks Chas i have the paper "Osteology of a new giant bony-toothed bird from the Miocene of Chile, with a revision of the taxonomy of Neogene Pelagornithidae" (GERALD MAYR; DAVID RUBILAR-Rogers),supplied to me by Bobby ,this is what i used to make my mind up that it may be from a bony tooth bird. although mine is a bit different in shape and size.I will also be getting in touch with A Tennison at TePapa who has a wonderful collection of Albatross that can be used to compare. Thanks to Bobby if i hadn't been looking for seal bones with bite marks (that i know i have somewhere) it may still be sitting in the back of the shed gathering dust. Edited March 27, 2011 by Dave pom Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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