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So this hunting "trip" is from about the past week and a half. Started when I became the proud owner of 40 or so pounds of lee creek gravel. I have searched through about 4 cups full so far and the amount of fossils in this stuff is incredible. I have identified, or think I have identified some of it but would love any feed back I can get!

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1. Cat Shark, Scyliorhinus sp?

2. Tope shark or Hemi?

3. Cow Shark (sp?)

4. Sawshark, Pristiophorus sp?

5. Ray, not sure

6. Symphyseal Hemi?

7. Sand tiger (sp?)

8. Male raja?

9. Unidentified fish teeth? Porgie?

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10. Drum, Pagonias?

11. Left - Marginella, Right - ?

12. Arene pergemma?

13. unknown

14. is this 3 different species of echinoid or just two?

15. unknown fish

16. crab claws (sp?)

17. Puffer fish mouth plate (Chilomycterus sp)

18. pinfish teeth (Lagodon sp?)

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19. Dasyatis, female

20. Dasyatis, male

21. Mobula, N-type, female

22. Barracuda, Sphyraena sp?

23. My first ever Hemi, right at 1/2" :wub:

24. same

Im having trouble identifying the different ray teeth. I can visibly make out at least 3-4 different kinds of them but past that I can't put a specific name on any of them.

Thats all for now,

Thanks for any help :)

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I think you did a good job of identifying these. Number 5 might be lateral teeth from a myliobatid, #11 on the left is probably Marginella, The dark piece in #14 is probably crab material, the others are echinoid, #20 look like Dasyatis and #21 might be Mobula, I would have to see a view from the top to be sure.

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I agree with your ID's, thanks! I think its also Mobula for 21, the top is completely flat. Matches up with Fig 3 (leftmost) on elasmo.com

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very nice Anthony, it's good to see some of the shells ID'd :)

"Your serpent of Egypt is bred now of your mud by the operation of your sun; so is your crocodile." Lepidus

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I am wondering if #6 may actually be whale shark. Is the tooth compressed? or more rounded? it appears the root is not complete to me, that is why I am thinking this.

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I am wondering if #6 may actually be whale shark. Is the tooth compressed? or more rounded? it appears the root is not complete to me, that is why I am thinking this.

That'd be pretty awesome! I have been waiting/hoping to see one. It does not appear to be compressed at all.

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Great post!! thanks for sharing!! I don't think that #6 is a whale shark, but I could be wrong.

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here are some pictures of whale shark teeth of mine,. these teeth are laterally compressed

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and after looking at them again, I must agree with Govinn and say I don't think yours is whale shark. I guess I jumped the gun on that one. Parasymphyseal hemi may be correct.

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It didn't strike me as one either, but that just means I gotta keep going and actually get one!

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With 40 lbs. of reject material, you never know what you might find.

Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt
behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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Anthony, funny you mention that about the porpoise/seal tooth... I was going thru some material last night and found a perfect whale shark tooth, but while I was looking thru it I was thinking about finding a seal tooth or another porpoise tooth. It's funny how our minds think alike sometimes...

To answer your question it depends on how much material you have and where it came from in the mine...

All-in-all I think your chances of finding a whale shark tooth are really good in 40 lbs of material (unless it's all dirt). ;)

As for finding a porpoise tooth... chances are good as well. I always find several teeth in a 5 gallon bucket.

Now finding a seal tooth is going to be a lot tougher! I have processed a couple hundred gallons of material from the spoils pile and I have 3 or 4 seal teeth...

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Interesting. I look forward to finding one eventually, thats one of the things I have been really hoping for!

No dirt here, about a 5 gal bucket of sifted gravel :)

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Now finding a seal tooth is going to be a lot tougher! I have processed a couple hundred gallons of material from the spoils pile and I have 3 or 4 seal teeth...

John, can you post pics of the seal teeth sometime? No rush, just curious to see them. I've never found any seal material in the spoil pile stuff.

Daryl.

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Hey Daryl!! Yes, I have the teeth at home (in LA) and should be there in a couple of weeks.

History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

~Sir Winston Churchill

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I too have never found a seal tooth in the spoil material. But as far as dolphin / porpoise teeth they are not uncommon.

Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt
behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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Looks like some type of symphyseal tooth to me.

I agree, some type of Carcharinid symphyseal

Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt
behind the trailer, my desert
Them red clay piles are heaven on earth
I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt

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I agree with John Hamilton. Looks like a symphyseal tooth to me too.

History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

~Sir Winston Churchill

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OK... I was able to find one display case of teeth from Aurora that I brought with me. The other "seal" teeth that I have are at my house in LA. Look at these pics and tell me what tooth you think it is... The two on the left are porpoise, but I don't think that the tooth on the right is... It looks like the tip is shattered, but it's complete...

Aurora teeth

Aurora tooth (angle 1)

Aurora tooth (angle 2)

Oh, and the reason my fingernails are yellow is because I'm working on a display stand for what I hope to be the fossil of the month (when I get done prepping it...) :D

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History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

~Sir Winston Churchill

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