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I found this today on the soundside of Wrightsville Beach, NC. Looks a little Bryozoan, maybe. Could be a shell trace fossil. I really am not sure and does anyone have any thoughts about it ? :) Little fossil in limestone with other bryozoa and some shell fragments.

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Kind of looks like a cross-section of a horn coral.

Interesting. I just looked horn coral up and there is a resemblance. I never would have thought coral, thank you. I am still researching though.

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Horn coral of that size should be visible on the other side also. Any sign of it on the back?

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Horn coral of that size should be visible on the other side also. Any sign of it on the back?

Good observation, Kyle!

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Probably a scleractiniid; so not a "horn coral". Horn corals are rugosids.

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Horn coral of that size should be visible on the other side also. Any sign of it on the back?

There is no sign of it on the back. This will be an good research project for me. Thanks Kehbe.

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It might be a barnacle scar, a place where a barnacle was once attached.

Maybe, I am checking into horn coral again and the scleractinid (stoney coral) again. Thank you Al Dente!

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It might be a barnacle scar, a place where a barnacle was once attached.

Goos call; a big acorn barnacle leaves a scar just like that.

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Probably a scleractiniid; so not a "horn coral". Horn corals are rugosids.

Thanks for the information Thanatocoenosis! There is a possbility this could be Anthozoa, scleractinid (stoney coral). I found the fact that it is in the same Pylum as jellyfish and sea anemone cause for even more research. I have been able to find plenty of pictures of a scleractinid online, but not in fossil form. I have been looking at horn coral aswell as other coral possibilities.

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Goos call; a big acorn barnacle leaves a scar just like that.

Goodness, I am looking in all directions to figure this little fossil out tonight. This should be fun! :) Looking into barnacles again.

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My initial thought was for some type of coral. Here is a paper on balanid barnacle ichnofossils: LINK

Interesting item :D

Thanks.The link does not seem to work. l am busy with this lead of yours now. :)

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Thanks.The link does not seem to work. l am busy with this lead of yours now. :)

I still think it's a coral but was following up on Al Dente's suggestion... Try the link again as it seems to be working now :)

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I still think it's a coral but was following up on Al Dente's suggestion... Try the link again as it seems to be working now :)

I will and I am going to contact a friend on the FF. He is an expert on coral and everything else. Thanks again. :)

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Hi Masonboro,Thanks,but I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I do have a lot of experience (and reference books :D ) It looks like a coral to me also, with the center of the calyx filled in. Leaving the septa and outer wall exposed. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess it's Paleogene since it's along the coast of N.C. Now to the very end of the limb and guess maybe "Flabellum" or "Trochocyathus" from the Eocene. If not, it might give you a starting place to look. Regards, Herb

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Hi Masonboro,Thanks,but I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I do have a lot of experience (and reference books :D ) It looks like a coral to me also, with the center of the calyx filled in. Leaving the septa and outer wall exposed. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess it's Paleogene since it's along the coast of N.C. Now to the very end of the limb and guess maybe "Flabellum" or "Trochocyathus" from the Eocene. If not, it might give you a starting place to look. Regards, Herb barely still in the tree :o

I knew you might know! I just researched both and the trace fossil resembles Trochocyathus GREATLY from the pics online! More so than the other coral specimens. Solidary coral could make the impression! I have a similar solidary, very modern coral and I am determining the resemblance. I would have not had this coral cross my mind until you mentioned it. Thank you! I posted a pic of my modern specimen. :D

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Hi Libby, that coral is very cool! I have some from the Eocene of Ala. that are almost identical. Herb

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Hi Libby, that coral is very cool! I have some from the Eocene of Ala. that are almost identical. Herb

Thanks Herb. It is one of my special corals. I found it about 30 years ago before I understood about fossils. Would like to see the similar Eocene coral, in your gallery pics?

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Here you go.

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Here you go.

Yes! Thank you. My little ichinofossil is special but not complete compaired to yours. Thank you for sharing.

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I have looked again at the back side of the limestone matrix. Kenbe had mentioned this yesterday. There is another tiny ichnofossil which does remsemble the one in question on the front, but smaller. I must have missed seeing it. This fossil is other side of the limestone, really in no relation to the one on the front. I have checked out the great links from everyone aswell. I am convinced this is coral due to everyone's help and identification possibilities. I really appreciate all the help! Considering I thought it was bryozoa at first, I have needed the help! :) I am back to Trochocyathus solidary coral and horn coral again. I have posted the picture of the ichnofossil on the back of the limestone.

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Indy that is a beautiful solitary coral, excellent details. What is it, Grewingkia? Where did you dig it up?

I agree that her specimen is a solitary coral also, I'm going with "Trochocyathus" from the Eocene due to the area and it's small size of 1/2 inch. What do you think?

Regards, Herb

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