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I had been watching that set of jaws, interesting to search ebay by price and look at some of the fossils people put up.

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The feedback isn't exactly the best. I wouldn't bid on it.

Has a real meg jaw ever been found?

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No. Fossilized shark jaws are not found as they are composed of cartilage.

Aren't the jaws partially ossified?

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Hi,

Aren't the jaws partially ossified?

No ! it exists 2 sorts of fish :

1- cartilaginous fishes : rays / skates - sharks and chimaeras (ratfishes) = chondrichtyens = selachians

2- osseous fishes (all other fishes).

Cartilaginous selachian skeleton are in cartilage, contrary to the other fishes all the bones of which fossilize more easily. The cartilage is a supple material for which are needed conditions so special to be able to fossilize that that arrives only very very rarely.

Coco

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No. Fossilized shark jaws are not found as they are composed of cartilage.

Not entirely true, some types of sharks have partially ossified jaws that can be preserved. I have seen a few papers illustrating this and have seen it personally, not on a meg though...

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Jesse, you can see a part of fossilized jaw on the 1st page of a Dirk Nolf book, but it rarest. Does it mean it was ossified ?

If you have documents on the partial ossification of shark jaws, that interests me.

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nolf-210.jpg

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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Still, fossilized shark jaws are fragmentary and vanishingly rare; a complete, undistorted 3-D jaw (like the example that founded this thread) is (dare I say it?) a practical impossibility.

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Still, fossilized shark jaws are fragmentary and vanishingly rare; a complete, undistorted 3-D jaw (like the example that founded this thread) is (dare I say it?) a practical impossibility.

But it still makes one wonder if there is a completely ossified meg jaw out there...somewhere...waiting...

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Coco, I was recently corrected by a colleague, shark jaws with rigid structures are calcified, not ossified. I work almost exclusively in the Paleozoic so i see quite a bit of jaw preservation, sharks trended toward less calcified jaws after the end Permian extinction.

Auspex, I think you are correct a meg jaw like above is impossible, would not happen. Would be super amazing though!

Coco, pm me your email adress and i will try and send you a few papers, some of them are huge files and may exceed email restrictions.

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Hi,

OK Jesse, I have done.

Coco

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OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici

Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici
Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici
Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici
Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici
Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici
Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici

Un Greg...

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