Gastropods Are Not In Forum?

[cvi huang]

Sorry, please tell me the gastropods are not fossils? example this snail in picture.

[Coco]

Hi,

At first, to identify a gastropod, you have to show 3 different pics like these ones :

I don't the technical words in english, but we have to see these 3 positions, indeed to see the opening of the gastropod is essential most of the time to identify a shell.

Furthermore, I think that your gastropod is broken. It is going to be difficult to give it a name.

Secondly, I don't know the place where from it results. I don't know if it is some fresh water or some salt water. Is it a marine shell ? Ground one ?

Even if you gave the indications of origin in your other comment, it is necessary to write them here because both subjects are separated, and we are not going to run on the other subject to find the information.

To finish, to know if it is fossil or not, when we do not know the fauna, we need to know certain information.

Coco

[cvi huang]

Thank You!

I try tell You info. always use only same one place, because a'm a beginner "fossilhunter", dont know other pleace, in near are not mine or other interest area. Only this one:

river-gravel (river of duna, in hungary) i now show in picture this riverbank with maybe 30 or 80(?) millions year of gray clay 20-80(?) meter thick. Only 100 meter long riverbank area near this gray clay, are gastropods example turritella, aporrhais, dentalidae(that not gastropod), turris, melongena, babylon, etc, maybe 30 diffrent sp. I think here gastropods are same age, period. Rarely in gray clay can find gastropods, but usually in gravel, in sand, near clay-area.

Yes it is broken, was very fragile so i also continued to broke this smal things, during take the photo, now in my home, maybe only detritus with other bigger fossils, but photo remaining.

[Coco]

I think your gastropod is fossil. Turritella, Aporrhais, Dentalidae etc... are marine fauna, but they are fossil AND recent !

I suppose Duna river is "Danube" in french. Would you put here other shell species you found with this one ?

Coco

[cvi huang]

other gastropods

[cvi huang]

other2

[glacialerratic]

To my eyes, the original shell looks modern - the preservation appears different from all the others.

The rest look like fossils and are very nice finds!

Coco, thanks for showing us an example of proper photo/presentation to id gastropods. Great photo of a very pretty snail!

[Bullsnake]

Nice shells! I'm not sure if all of them are fossils either, but I found this site which has a picture of gastropods that kind of look like one you have. It doesn't identify it, though.

http://www.mafi.hu/en/node/795

I think maybe you have a murex specimen, also.

Sorry I'm not much help, but you are finding some nice shells!

[Raistlin]

Coco thanks for the great information. That is very useful information to know.

I am sorry I cannot be more useful in the ID of the gastropod though.

[Plax]

they all look like paleogene or early neogene fossils to me Fossil Hunter. Your first one doesn't look like any freshwater modern snail I know of from temperate waters. All just opinions of course. Coco certainly has a better grasp of these fossils.

[jpc]

I'm no expert on snails but that last one looks too ornate to be fresh water Danube snail. Are there many ornate fresh-water snails? So my guess is that these are indeed marine snails and if they are in the Danube, probably fossils. That is my half-educated guess.

[cvi huang]

Epitoniumbabylonia?!

Epitoniidae:

"The Wentletraps, named for the Dutch word for a spiral staircase, present a surprising array of species, noted for their intricately geometric shell architecture. Most are distinguished by a long spire, very deep sutures, and characteristically strong axial varices that run across all of the whorls from the tip of the spire to the aperture. The shells are generally white and have a porcelain-like appearance...."

[jkfoam]

fossilhunter2,

Your snail shows two very unusual features. It is coiled sinstral, that is left handed and it exhibits heterostrophy, an abrupt change in the type of coiling in the nucleus and the adult whorls.

Jim

[cvi huang]

today i found frequent fossils

aporrhais and typhis

turris/ turricula

These two pieces maybe really fit together because color same,..., and was 2 meters away from each other

-what is that "circle" animal(?) on turris?

Edited September 6, 2012 by cvi huang

[Scott S.]

The ones labeled typhis are spectacular!!!

[cvi huang]

the gastropods are oligocene

first snail (coiled sinstral, that is left handed) is eocene (!?)

Edited September 8, 2012 by cvi huang

[cvi huang]

this eocene/oligocene gastropod epitoniidae family maybe?

gyroscala genus?

example like this:

(mirror)

Edited September 15, 2012 by cvi huang

[Auspex]

this eocene/oligocene gastropod epitoniidae family maybe?

gyroscala genus?

example like this:

(mirror)

That part looks very similar! Confident identification of gastropods, though, needs to include examination of the aperture.

[Coco]

Hi,

Your shell could be that.

I am not a malacology specialist, but I have a friend who explained me that besides the opening, we also had to look at the apex of the shell (the sharp end). Here on your specimen the 1st tour is rounded off, whereas on the last images it is sharp (what I can see). Furthermore, it would be necessary to compare specimens of the same size.

Coco

[cvi huang]

sorry it was not a fossil,

not marine, not freshwater, "only" terrestrial

because

it is "Clausiliidae"

Edited September 24, 2012 by cvi huang

[Herb]

Coco, that is a beautiful gastropod picture.!

[cvi huang]

a few gastropods from this gravel