Guest bmorefossil Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 very cool, nice job nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopocetus Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Congrats Nick. I definitely learned something from this quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrocklds Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 great job in your deductive reasoning. i very much enjoyed reading and wish i had had more time to do it myself. congratulations Brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks guys, I was studying for a midterm and I took an hour break spending it entirely on this ID. It was very difficult but I learned a great deal. Thanks for the great quiz and the "Golden Kudo" Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 great job in your deductive reasoning. i very much enjoyed reading and wish i had had more time to do it myself. congratulations Brock No, you're not allowed. You're smart enough! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 yea that would so unfair lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kauffy Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Alright, Nicholas! You win the golden kudo for your research! The answer I was looking for was humerus from a representative of the Parvorder Mustelida, Family Mustelidae (weasels, skunks, otters, et al.) or Family Procyonidae (raccoons and coatis). For those who didn't do the research, the entepicondylar foramen (EECF) is never found on the humerus of perissodactyls (horses, tapirs, et al.) nor on the humerus of artiodactyls (antelopes, camels, et al.), nor is it found in lagomorphs (rabbits and such). The EECF is absent in hyaenids, bears, and canids (including foxes and chihuahuas). The EECF is found in didelphids (opossums) and in shrews and moles! (Micro-fossil collectors take note.) The EECF is present in felids (no cats from this site - too early), in viverrids (all Old World), in amphicyonids (bear-dogs), and in mustelids and procyonids. I think this humerus is from a small mustelid, rather than from a much rarer procyonid. Four mustelids and two procyonids have been identified from this site. I favor mustelid because of the robust muscle attachments on the humerus which suggest powerful digging/grasping forelegs. This information about the EECF might be worth remembering. You may get an opportunity to dazzle your friends with your knowledge of this esoterica. Post-cranial skeletal information is often neglected by collectors. hah well what do you know, i was thinking mustelid, hence the reason i said weasel, and that was the justification behind my whole unscientific carnivore spew... haha! what an interesting bone, and as you say it, post cranian skeletal bones are defiantly interesting! im still trying to figure out all of my bones from the fissure material. Cheers for this interesting post, i really learnt quite a bit! please post some more of these quizzes... maybe next time i will shout out my guess rather than be conservative on the thought of having it completly wrong! hah! "Turn the fear of the unknown into the excitment of possibility!"We dont stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 hah well what do you know, i was thinking mustelid, hence the reason i said weasel, and that was the justification behind my whole unscientific carnivore spew... haha!what an interesting bone, and as you say it, post cranian skeletal bones are defiantly interesting! im still trying to figure out all of my bones from the fissure material. Cheers for this interesting post, i really learnt quite a bit! please post some more of these quizzes... maybe next time i will shout out my guess rather than be conservative on the thought of having it completly wrong! hah! I don't think you should worry too much about being completely wrong here. No one gets attacked here (on the forum) for being completely wrong. Faulty information seems to be ignored and forgotten. (The exception in the past has been "young earth" or creationist assertions which really tick-off some of us.) I'm going to try to structure these quizzes so that the winner of the gold is the member who makes deductions about the fossil based on more than merely size. (If we wanted a simple guessing game, we could guesstimate the number of shark teeth contained in a jar.) Though this will be more work for all of us, it will pay off with some knowledge, I think. (I now know more about entepicondylar foramina than I ever thought I would!!) You, Chris, have been engaged in an intensive course of this sort of deductive reasoning as you attempt to identify your micro-vertebrates. You will become sooo good at these quizzes, we'll have to bar your participation to give others a chance at the gold!! http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screweduptexan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Gosh...and I too thought it was a chupacabra..... I can't come up with anything clever enough for my signature...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 A beautifully constructed quiz, Harry; thank you once again for the learning opportunity! :applause: "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Gosh...and I too thought it was a chupacabra..... lol maybe next time........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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