Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well I am back from California and am expecting my new COMCO suite including Dual Tank Microblaster and Air Cleaner to arrive here in Texas next week. I got a great deal on the equipment and am looking forward to getting the lab set up! While I was in Los Angeles,My wife and I took a day to join the Buena Vista Museum of Natural History for a hunt at Sharktooth Hill. I have heard about this place for years and was very excited to have this opportunity. We went out in the morning with small shovels and screens. The staff and volunteers at the museum were very nice and knowledgeable and the museum in Bakersfield is definitely worth visiting. They have some wonderful examples of the Miocene creatures that can be found in the area. You could either dig in the wall or surface hunt. I was a little concerned that I was looking at a site that had hundreds of holes dug all next to each other and had brittle Miocene boneshards strewn all over the place by careless hunters. But As I got into the hunt, I understand why there were so many pieces. The bones are 10-15 Million years old and most are not very well mineralized. The creatures here are mostly whales, dolphins, sea lions, various fish, sharks, turtles and rays. Their bones are not hard to find, there is a wide bone bed where the crumbly bones are mostly disarticulated and jumbled together. Still not a good excuse to carelessly dig, but most people come there for the shark teeth and are not interested in the bones. Sad. On the other hand, I poked around for a few minutes looking for the right spot and located a place that looked promisingand began to probe the soft ground and screen through the dirt. Immediately I found my first shark tooth - a curved Mako. Then another and another. soom I was locating all sorts of bones and teeth. It was an incredible day. I found Teeth from Sea Lions, 15 types of Sharks, 2 types of rays, 3 types of dolphin, 2 possible whales. I also found vertebra and various identifiable bones from whales, dolphins, fish, sea lions and a large sea turtle. It took a while to clean up everything, but I have a count of just the teeth I found. 179 teeth (many were not complete) and a pile of keeper bones and verts in 8 hours .... and amazingly, I never left a 6 foot circle for 90% of the day. It was truly and awesome hunt. The Haul Dolphin (Squalodon) and sea lion (Allodesmus) teeth Close-up of a primitive dolphin (Squalodon) tooth Sea lion (Allodesmus) heel bone - Calcaneous Dolphin earbones - other unidentified (possibly juvinile) earbones Turtle upper beak tip Large Miocene Fish jaw Jon 4 "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Oh yes, I also found some shark and ray teeth! Some of the Large, Narrow and Curved Mako teeth as well as a few requiem and Hammerheads The next 2 pics show Squalus Occidentalis (Dogfish), Curved Mako, Cow Shark (both broken), Basking Shark (1 tooth), Tiger (2 types), and one Cetacea Dolphin tooth ( the narrow one at the bottom). There are also a couple pieces of Ray spine on the left. The pointy small tooth at top left is an Angel Shark tooth. There are also a few dermal denticles. Some of the tiny teeth and denticles. The top row includes a few unidentified items (still working on ID), but the last one is a Basking shark tooth. On the second row is 2 ray teeth and an unidentified fish tooth. 3rd row has 4 Dasyatis Ray teeth (female, because each has two prongs) and the pointy tooth at far right is a nice Angel Shark tooth. The 4th row is 3 Squalus Occidentalis (Dogfish) teeth. One more. This is a really cool deformed Curved Mako tooth. Can you tell I had a great time? Have a Great Holiday Season! Jon and the Kimmer Edited December 14, 2012 by Texas Fossil Hound 1 "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickNC Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Very nice! I'd like to get out there someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 What a wonderful time you must have had. Congratulations, beautiful finds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokiehunter Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Great stuff. The fact that most of that came from a 6 foot circle is amazing. It would take me 2 miles plus of beach surface hunting to come anywhere close to that in terms of volume. Love the dolphin and sea lion teeth and that deformed mako is straight up awesome. Congrats on a great trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Nice report. I was there last year and also had the same sad impression of everyone blasting through all the bones to get to the teeth. I'm glad you collected a bunch of bones in addition to your teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Looks like an amazing adventure. Congratulations! Could you show a close-up of the circled item below? Do you have any idea what it may be? From this pic, it looks very similar to a piece of bone I've found in the past, but never been able to positively identify. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreekCrawler Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Great haul Jon, can't wait to see your new prep equiptment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossiladdict Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Love the dolphin tooth and that mako...sweet finds. Can't wait till your equipment is set up ! Fossils are simply one of the coolest things on earth--discovering them is just marvelous! Makes you all giddy inside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullsnake Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wonderful report and finds! The pathological tooth is really cool. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepDigger Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Those teeth are awesome! I am planning a trip to Yosemite this summer, now I'm going to have to check that out too! Did you have to bring your own equipment when you volunteer or does the museum have some loaners? TSA frowns on shovels and pick axes anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDOTB Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Great trip report, you found a lot of awesome stuff! I especially like the whale material! DO, or do not. There is no try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Amazing finds. Thanks for sharing these with us. The mako's from there are awesome. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think that is the proximal end of an Allodesmus metacarpal but a close-up would help. Looks like an amazing adventure. Congratulations! Could you show a close-up of the circled item below? Do you have any idea what it may be? From this pic, it looks very similar to a piece of bone I've found in the past, but never been able to positively identify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Jon and the Kimmer, That first tooth on the top row looks like a Heterodontus anterior tooth. I would need at least another angle on the second specimen. The third specimen is a dermal denticle - maybe from Dasyatis. Jess Some of the tiny teeth and denticles. The top row includes a few unidentified items (still working on ID), but the last one is a Basking shark tooth. On the second row is 2 ray teeth and an unidentified fish tooth. 3rd row has 4 Dasyatis Ray teeth (female, because each has two prongs) and the pointy tooth at far right is a nice Angel Shark tooth. The 4th row is 3 Squalus Occidentalis (Dogfish) teeth. Have a Great Holiday Season! Jon and the Kimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espeton Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Awsome teeth!!! I am planing the same trip for next month. Any tip that you can give in advance? What tools do you recomend? Sifters and shovel are enough? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vordigern Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 wow, thats a huge haul!!! great finds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil26 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Great finds!!! I love digging slowly through the bonebed...so many fossils to find that way. In the pictures with the earbones I believe the unidentified one on the top is a dolphin tympanic bulla. The larger earbone on the right might be from a sperm whale. Also the turtle beak tip might really be a Mola fish (sun fish) jaw. I found several of these and thought they were turtle as well. A paleonotologist/ turtle specialist identified them as a beak or jaw of the Mola fish. Lisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I agree that it looks like a Mola jaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Those teeth are awesome! I am planning a trip to Yosemite this summer, now I'm going to have to check that out too! Did you have to bring your own equipment when you volunteer or does the museum have some loaners? TSA frowns on shovels and pick axes anymore. I brough a small shovel and my regular dig equipment (that I could squeeze into my check luggage, but all I really needed there, since I did not plan to dig in the wall, is a probing tool (I use a K-Bar Knife), water soluable glue solution and a screen with between a 1/8 and 1/4 hole. I also STRONGLY encourage the practice of bagging some soil for micro fossil searching. There is rich abundance of fossils there. Please encourage others to not detroy the bone finds there. Even though they are somtimes crumbly. a little time and effort will yield beautiful results., Jon "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jon and the Kimmer, That first tooth on the top row looks like a Heterodontus anterior tooth. I would need at least another angle on the second specimen. The third specimen is a dermal denticle - maybe from Dasyatis. Jess I was thinking it may be Heterodontus. It does appear to have cusplets on either side, but I really need to get a closeup on it to be sure. My reading glasses alone are not cutting it. I will try to get some better pics. Jon "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Great report and so many great finds. Shark Tooth Hill has always been on my bucket list, as well as Aurora. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Looks like an amazing adventure. Congratulations! Could you show a close-up of the circled item below? Do you have any idea what it may be? From this pic, it looks very similar to a piece of bone I've found in the past, but never been able to positively identify. Here are a couple pics of the bone you circled. the middle bone is definitely an Allodesmus phylange (finger). I have not identified the other two bones, but I am thinking they are sea lion flipper bones because they were all found near each other. It would be awesome to find a picture reference for Allodesmus osteology. Anyone have a pointer? "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Fossil Hound Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Great finds!!! I love digging slowly through the bonebed...so many fossils to find that way. In the pictures with the earbones I believe the unidentified one on the top is a dolphin tympanic bulla. The larger earbone on the right might be from a sperm whale. Also the turtle beak tip might really be a Mola fish (sun fish) jaw. I found several of these and thought they were turtle as well. A paleonotologist/ turtle specialist identified them as a beak or jaw of the Mola fish. Lisa Oooo! That is interesting. I had not thought of that. Do you have some contact info for your specialist friend? it would be nice to have a professional opinion. Thanks!!! I would love to get out there again and spend a little more time. The material is so different from TX. "Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 You will find figures of Allodesmus bones in various publications that review fossil marine mammals but the best one for that is: Mitchell, E. 1966. The Miocene Pinniped Allodesmus. University of California Publications in Geological Sciences. Volume 61. It reviews a nearly complete skeleton with photos of all the bones. The skeleton was collected in the STH bonebed in 1960. One of my friends helped dig it out. Here are a couple pics of the bone you circled. the middle bone is definitely an Allodesmus phylange (finger). I have not identified the other two bones, but I am thinking they are sea lion flipper bones because they were all found near each other. It would be awesome to find a picture reference for Allodesmus osteology. Anyone have a pointer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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