sixgill pete Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I have had this bone for a while and have gotten curious about a possible ID. Over the last several days I have seen allot of post's about bones, so I thought I would give it a try. The bone was found here in eastern NC at a quarry near Maysville (Belgrade). It is upper Oligocene (Belgrade Formation) and River Bend Formation (lower Miocene). Pliocene and Pleistocene layers are also present, but mammal material is not common. I have found a tooth there that has been ID'd as peccary, but no positive ID. Bone: Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 one more bone pic Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 To me, the structure of the bone looks more like turtle than it does mammal. I'd guess tortoise, perhaps a fragment of a coracoid or pelvis? That's a hard one to id without having the bone in hand, as there are no really diagnostic characters visible. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Interesting, there is a lot of pieces of turtle shell found there. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The bone somewhat reminds me of a tortoise scapula. Please post a clearer picture of the tooth. The enamel looks pretty complex in this (blurry) picture which makes it appear to be Sus scrofa. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) As I look at the pictures, there is also something rather humerus looking about the fragment, especially the third view you provide in the first post. Compare it with this pic, and imagine a fragment rather like the one on the right side, but from a larger, more robust land tortoise. I'm still comfortable with the bone structure being turtlish - there is just a very thin layer of cortical bone, and a rather homogeneous "filling" all the way through of spongey bone with the pores all being small and the same size, as is typical of turtles, rather than having a much thicker cortical layer and spongey bone infilling with larger spaces towards the center, as in most all mammal bone. (Thanks to whoever posted the original of this pic - I found it with a google search, but it came from this forum). Edited January 9, 2013 by RichW9090 The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Thanks for the info on the bone. I was not anticipating any ID, so I am pleased. Here are a couple more pics of the tooth. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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