ckmerlin Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hi all literally just got back from trip ad just split this bit of shale which has lots of detrital bits in it but this was looking at me !! looks like Orthacanthus s.p tooth but as I say Im no expert if it is not, any ideas as to what it may be ? its size is 1.2 cm in length by 0.62 cm wide upper Carboniferous Westphalian-A "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Hey Chris,Certainly looks like this one I found in a google search. Congratulations on a great find!Regards, Any idea of what fauna have been previously found here? Is there any published material on the formation you are hunting? Some Xenacanthus teeth look similar as well, and it was a smaller shark... maybe a possibility? Edited March 6, 2013 by Fossildude19 Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Thanks Tim thats great ! "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hi Tim hmm yes Xenacanthus is a possibility , I havent found any information on the spot Im hunting as yet , (seems to be a fresh site ) , but I do know fish remains have been found in other places of the U.K with westphalian-A deposits of marine shale in the coal measures "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lissa318 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Cool! Another nice find! Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Cool! Another nice find! Congrats. Hi Thanks Lissa hope to see more from you soon I saw your last post with rock from garden your getting good eye in only just logged in so havnt had time to leave message o your post "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyce Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wow! they are really nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hey Chris, You might take a look at/download this PDF. Found it this morning while looking for matches to your tooth. Hope it is helpful. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hey Chris, You might take a look at/download this PDF. Found it this morning while looking for matches to your tooth. Hope it is helpful. Regards, Thanks for that Tim Ill download it looks very useful "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Cool tooth. I have one like it that I've been calling Xenacanthus. Well, hey, I happen to have an image available: Oh yeah.... Upper Cherokee Group, Pennsylvanian Knob Noster, Missouri Edited March 7, 2013 by Missourian Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Chris... Very nice... I must of missed this post.... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Cool tooth. I have one like it that I've been calling Xenacanthus. Well, hey, I happen to have an image available: 59-Xenacanthus.jpg Oh yeah.... Upper Cherokee Group, Pennsylvanian Knob Noster, Missouri Thats nice thanks for sharing Missourian I think Xenacanthus is on the mark "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE&i Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hi all literally just got back from trip ad just split this bit of shale which has lots of detrital bits in it but this was looking at me !! looks like Orthacanthus s.p tooth but as I say Im no expert if it is not, any ideas as to what it may be ? its size is 1.2 cm in length by 0.62 cm wide upper Carboniferous Westphalian-A That`s a great find is this circle shape part of the the tooth.....did you use your usb scope to take the picture. Darren. Regards.....D&E&i The only certainty with fossil hunting is the uncertainty. https://lnk.bio/Darren.Withers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hi Darren thanks , The circle is part of the tooth which I found when I thought it wasnt and went to brush it off , I soon realized it was part of the whole also yes I did use my usb scope but only on level 10x magnification I could probably take a normal photo its big enough for that "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hi all update on Id for this tooth reply from Jenny the expert I sent photos too Hello! My PhD student who's studying chondrichthyans of this age says thatyes, it's a xenacanthomorph, and probably belongs to the subgroupBransonelliformes. It may belong to the genus Barbclabornia, although thatgenus is generally found a bit later, from Late Carboniferous to EarlyPermian. Interesting.Best wishes, JennyProfessor Jennifer A. Clack ScD FRSProfessor and Curator of Vertebrate PalaeontologyUniversity Museum of Zoology, Cambridge "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Very exciting, Chris! Thanks for the update. Can't wait to see what more you find there. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 IPFOTM -- MAY - 2024 _________________________________________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Very exciting, Chris! Thanks for the update. Can't wait to see what more you find there. Regards, Hi Tim yes it is very exciting , I wanted to confirm the opinion here of xenacanthus Im starting to catalogue the fossils by genus with grid references, geological data etc Im also looking on my maps to see if there may be other areas with this same lower westphalean -A coal measure marine band shale locally , Ill keep you up to date with any new finds Edited March 13, 2013 by ckmerlin "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactyll Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Chris.... Great to get a positive ID....Its throwing some very interesting material out that layer... Keep up the good work... Cheers Steve... And Welcome if your a New Member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Jim Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 very cool...great find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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