Uncle Siphuncle Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Don't rely on me, haha! I make it up as I go! I don't have any more knowledge or info available than anyone else...I just like finding stuff and tend to put most of my research efforts into finding more stuff, as opposed to fully understanding what I've already found, which might take time away from the field. I figure a fuller understanding of what I've found can always happen later if I'm so inclined. Last time I heard buzz of a potential update to the Akers ech reference, it was Frank Holterhoff and Neal Immega discussing independent efforts to generate comprehensive photo heavy references perhaps 5 years ago. As far as I know, neither effort has gotten off the ground. The only thing for sure is that such an undertaking would require widespread collaboration from private collectors in order to bring quality images of the best specimens possible to the table. Edited June 17, 2013 by danwoehr Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Last time I heard buzz of a potential update to the Akers ech reference, it was Frank Holterhoff and Neal Immega discussing independent efforts to generate comprehensive photo heavy references perhaps 5 years ago. As far as I know, neither effort has gotten off the ground. The only thing for sure is that such an undertaking would require widespread collaboration from private collectors in order to bring quality images of the best specimens possible to the table. Not to hijack this thread, but Neal and I have discussed this update several times. As it will be a time consuming effort, the latest idea that we have pitched around is, rather than updating the book itself, that we would photograph or solicit high quality photos from Texas collectors - preferably done using stacking software to ensure a high quality, full focus picture. We would then create a section on the HGMS website to post these pictures along with the available information on them. It would become an ever growing photographic database of Texas echinoid information. What do you and others think of that idea? Neal does a pretty good job with the photography (see some of the photographs in "TRILOBITES of Black Cat Mountain" by George P. Hansen). We need to get that first page done and get it kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Not to hijack this thread, but Neal and I have discussed this update several times. As it will be a time consuming effort, the latest idea that we have pitched around is, rather than updating the book itself, that we would photograph or solicit high quality photos from Texas collectors - preferably done using stacking software to ensure a high quality, full focus picture. We would then create a section on the HGMS website to post these pictures along with the available information on them. It would become an ever growing photographic database of Texas echinoid information. What do you and others think of that idea? Neal does a pretty good job with the photography (see some of the photographs in "TRILOBITES of Black Cat Mountain" by George P. Hansen). We need to get that first page done and get it kicked off. Good subject, MikeD. I figure we need a new topic rather than hijack this one. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) A new topic thread sounds good to me as well. Not that I'm territorial about this one, but I tend to start a thread and then meander and wander just like the Brazos river. Heck, I don't just meander, I throw up thunderstorms, go all ADD on y'all, then decide to go OCD, then I just wander off and throw rocks at the moon. I'm about half chicken-fried, a Yankee that's been southernized, and somehow folks keep entrusting me with their children. They are trusting folks. Of course, I haven't launched a student yet that I didn't recover. I'm pretty dang good at keeping my students alive as I risk their lives. Edited June 20, 2013 by mikecable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 The Waco Pit. Desperados Waiting for a Train Lyrics I played the Red River Valley He'd sit in the kitchen and cry Run his fingers through seventy years of livin' And wonder, "Lord, why has every well I've drilled gone dry?" We were friends, me and this old man We's like desperados waitin' for a train Desperados waitin' for a train He's a drifter, a driller of oil wells He's an old school man of the world He taught me how to drive his car when he was too drunk to And he'd wink and give me money for the girls And our lives was like, some old Western movie Like desperados waitin' for a train Like desperados waitin' for a train From the time that I could walk he'd take me with him To a bar called the Green Frog Cafe There was old men with beer guts and dominos Lying 'bout their lives while they played I was just a kid, they all called me "Sidekick" Just like desperados waitin' for a train Like desperados waitin' for a train One day I looked up and he's pushin' eighty He's got brown tobacco stains all down his chin Well to me he was a hero of this country So why's he all dressed up like them old men Drinkin' beer and playin' Moon and Forty-two Jus' like desperados waitin' for a train Like a desperado waitin' for a train The day 'fore he died I went to see him I was grown and he was almost gone. So we just closed our eyes and dreamed us up a kitchen And sang one more verse to that old song (spoken) Come on, Jack, that son-of-a-###### is comin' We're desperados waitin' for a train Was like desperados waitin' for a train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Time to get back to the waltz. I live as close to the Panhandle as I do to the Hill Country. I love it all, but this song is more about the part of Texas I come from. Levelland--James McMurtry Flatter than a tabletop Makes you wonder why they stopped here Wagon must have lost a wheel or they lacked ambition one On the great migration west Separated from the rest Though they might have tried their best They never caught the sun So they sunk some roots down in the dirt To keep from blowin' off the earth Built a town around here And when the dust had all but cleared They called it Levelland, the pride of man In Levelland Granddad grew the dryland wheat Stood on his own two feet His mind got incomplete and they put in the home Daddy's cotton grows so high Sucks the water table dry Rolling sprinklers circle round Bleedin' it to the bone And I won't be here when it comes a day It all dries up and blows away I'd hang around just to see But they never had much use for me in Levelland They don't understand me out in Levelland And I watch those jet trails carving up that big blue sky Coast to coasters watch 'em go And I never would blame 'em one snarge bit If they never looked down on this Not much here they'd wanna know Just Levelland Far as you can point your hand Nothin' but Levelland Mama used to roll her hair Back before the central air We'd sit outside and watch the stars at night She'd tell me to make a wish I'd wish we both could fly Don't think she's seen the sky Since we got the satellite dish and I can hear the marching band Doin' the best they can They're playing "Smoke on the Water", "Joy to the World" I've paid off all my debts Got some change left over yet and I'm Gettin' on a whisper jet I'm gonna fly as far as I can get from Levelland, doin' the best I can Out in Levelland - imagine that Oh, good... I was hoping James McM would make the list. He's my favorite texas songwriter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tessweaver Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mike and Gary, Thanks for letting me tag along to the Pit. It was awesome, but I am a little jealous that ya'll got rain the next day. I think I might prefer mud to the rough, sharp "concrete" that we had to kneel and crawl on Saturday. I haven't had a chance to go through my finds from Whiskey Bridge and the Pit, but here are some pics of the hellish ground we crawled around on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mike and Gary, Thanks for letting me tag along to the Pit. It was awesome, but I am a little jealous that ya'll got rain the next day. I think I might prefer mud to the rough, sharp "concrete" that we had to kneel and crawl on Saturday. I haven't had a chance to go through my finds from Whiskey Bridge and the Pit, but here are some pics of the hellish ground we crawled around on. Waco Pit June 8.jpgWaco Pit June 8 b.jpgWaco Pit June 8 c.jpg Glad you were able to tag along. Hope to hunt with you again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Some wee bits from the Waco Research Pit. And several more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erose Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mike and Gary, Thanks for letting me tag along to the Pit. It was awesome, but I am a little jealous that ya'll got rain the next day. I think I might prefer mud to the rough, sharp "concrete" that we had to kneel and crawl on Saturday. I haven't had a chance to go through my finds from Whiskey Bridge and the Pit, but here are some pics of the hellish ground we crawled around on. Waco Pit June 8.jpgWaco Pit June 8 b.jpgWaco Pit June 8 c.jpg Sorry I did not get a chance to meet you Saturday. The pit is definitely different when wet. But, despite the heavy rain that morning it was looking just like your photos by 3PM Sunday afternoon. Mike, nice photos. I'm still cataloging some of the odd bits and revising the faunal list with updated names and other species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Everything I found on both days would fit into a pill bottle. But those top five specimens made the whole trip worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 The photos above were all taken through a Bausch and Lomb Stereozoom Four--between 7X and 15X magnification, with a florescent ring lamp mounted to the objective. I used a FujiFilm FinePix SL300 on a Seben afocal mount above one eyepiece. Two second shutter delay, and automatic settings on the camera. I edit in Google Plus. Generally I rotate the image to straighten the scale, and then crop to size. The ring lamp causes most of the photos to be slightly over-exposed, but by adding some shadow I get sharper detail. I usually up the sharpness a bit, and if the specimen has interesting color contrast I'll up the color saturation a bit as well. Then add the text and save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 How can you not like little jewels like that...nice images and finds, Mike. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 JohnJ--this post is for you. They have fairly tight collecting rules at the Waco Research Pit. Specifically you are only supposed to collect up to two hand-sized specimens, or the equivalent in volume. Since most of the fossils are very small this is not that problematic. But it does prevent you from bulk sampling for micros. Unless you follow the rules creatively. Just prior to this picture we had climbed out of the spillway gorge--at the insistence of the Army Corps of Engineers. We were very muddy. Erich has a relatively new ride--that won't last long fossil hunting. But we tried our best to clean up before climbing back in his vehicle to make it back to the pit. JohnJ generously bagged up the mud from his knee pads for me to process for the benefit of the Fossil Forum. A total of three pounds of Waco Pit muck. This is what knee pad muck looks like. Not much. Personally I thought JohnJ was full of carp and sending me off on a snipe chase. But three pounds of muck can be sluiced and juiced and sieved down to an ounce or two. Which surprisingly to me was highly fossiliferous. Nothing great--but lots of nice micromorph oysters. There are some small echinoderm bits in there as well--but mostly oysters. Still pretty cool--the fossils from JohnJ's knee pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 When John offers you a pillowcase and a flashlight, that's a snipe hunt "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 When John offers you a pillowcase and a flashlight, that's a snipe hunt If John ever dared to offer me that, I'd volunteer to hunt in the proximity of his tent. With a shotgun filled with rock salt. I'm not sure John knew how many fossils were on his knee pads. It's all incredibly cool beans as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I knew there would be some fossils in there. I hoped it would be something a bit more dramatic, especially given the area we were crawling. Still, I wouldn't count out the 'lowly' Ilymatogyra arietinas. It's time to put their little cups under the microscope and see what has been protected for the last 97 million years. Glad to see you're still having fun with that trip. It was an adventure. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 I knew there would be some fossils in there. I hoped it would be something a bit more dramatic, especially given the area we were crawling. Still, I wouldn't count out the 'lowly' Ilymatogyra arietinas. It's time to put their little cups under the microscope and see what has been protected for the last 97 million years. Glad to see you're still having fun with that trip. It was an adventure. Living is an adventure. The dead part is a drag. But hell's bells I'm still on the living end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecable Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Any waltz across Texas should end up at a place called Whiskey Bridge. This one started there, but being an amateur paleontologist I play with space and time, so my narrative will end there. Originally the Stone City formation bluffs were the Moseley ford, and later the Moseley ferry. During prohibition, the bridge became known as "Whiskey" bridge--a well known route for Texas A & M students to the closest bootlegger. "Copperhead Road"--Steve Earle Well my name's John Lee PettimoreSame as my daddy and his daddy beforeYou hardly ever saw Grandaddy down hereHe only came to town about twice a yearHe'd buy a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper lineEverybody knew that he made moonshineNow the revenue man wanted Grandaddy badHe headed up the holler with everything he hadIt's before my time but I've been toldHe never came back from Copperhead RoadNow Daddy ran the whiskey in a big block DodgeBought it at an auction at the Mason's LodgeJohnson County Sheriff painted on the sideJust shot a coat of primer then he looked insideWell him and my uncle tore that engine downI still remember that rumblin' soundWell the sheriff came around in the middle of the nightHeard mama cryin', knew something wasn't rightHe was headed down to Knoxville with the weekly loadYou could smell the whiskey burnin' down Copperhead RoadI volunteered for the Army on my birthdayThey draft the ###### first,'round here anywayI done two tours of duty in VietnamAnd I came home with a brand new planI take the seed from Colombia and MexicoI plant it up the holler down Copperhead RoadWell the D.E.A.'s got a chopper in the airI wake up screaming like I'm back over thereI learned a thing or two from ol' Charlie don't you knowYou better stay away from Copperhead RoadCopperhead RoadCopperhead RoadCopperhead Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikecable Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 My musical tribute to the Brazos--The "Arms of God" in Spanish. Robert Earl Keen - Front Porch Song This old porch is a big ol' red and white Herford bull Standin' under a mesquite tree in Agua Dulce, Texas He keeps on playin' hide and seek with that hot august sun Sweatin' and a pantin' cause his work is never done Oh no, with those cows and a red top cane This old porch is a steamin' greasy plate of enchiladas With lots of cheese and onions ans a guacamole salad You can get them at the LaSalle Hotel in old downtown With ice tea and a waitress who will smile every time Oh yeah, I left a quarter tip on my ten dollar bill This old porch is a palace walk in on a main street in Texas It ain't never seen or heard the days of G's and R's and X's And that '62 poster that's almost faded down And a screen without a picture since Giant came to town Oh no, I like those junior mints and the red hots too, yes I do This old porch is like a weathered grey haired seventy years of Texas Who’s doin' all he can not to give in to the city And he always takes my rent late so long as I run his cattle He picks me up at dinner time and I listen to him rattle He says the Brazos still runs muddy like she's run all along There’s never been no cane to grind and the cotton's all but gone You know this Chevrolet pickup truck, hell she was somethin' back in '60 But now there won't nobody listen to him 'cause they all think he's crazy This old porch is just a long time of waiting and forgetting Remembering the coming back and not crying about the leaving And remembering the falling down and the laughter of the curse of luck From all those son's of ###### who said we'd never get back up This old porch is a big old red and white Herford bull Standing under a mesquite tree out in Agua Dulce He keep's on playing hide and seek with that hot August sun He’s sweating and a panting 'cause his work is never done I've know a whole lot of bulls in my time, and there work is never done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Mike, nice micro finds and cool bridge. The steamin greasy plate of enchiladas with lots of cheese and onions and a guacamole salad with an ice tea works for me too! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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