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What Are These Holes?


DavidM

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Hi all,

My first post here, so forgive me if this is a silly question, I am a geologist, but no expert in fossils. I bought his fossil some time ago (labelled therapod vertebra from the US, no other info). There is a group of oval pits that intrigued me (two fairly oval and two elongate ones close together). I had intially wondered if they were predation marks, however if they were, the predator in question would have had a pretty freaky smile. My second thought was that these were some sort of pits caused by dissolution of the fossil, as they are parallel to the 'grain' of the vertebra, and my impression was that predation punctures would not be this deep. There are some similar small pits on the opposite side.

Anyway, I thought I would ask for some ideas as to what they might be. Possibly nothing at all.

Thanks for any help,

David

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It's hard to be sure from the photos but my gut reaction was that it is a plesiosaur vertebra and that those are ventral foramina. I know that 2 formaina is the standard, and a great way to ID plesiosaur verts, but I've never heard of more than 2.It doesn't strike me as a theropod vert and the color is odd for a US dinosaur bone. My best guess is an English plesiosaur but there are definitely things suspect about that ID, too.

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It's hard to tell from the photos, but it looks like one end is concave and the other convex. Can you confirm that please?

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...my gut reaction was that...those are ventral foramina...

I'm glad to hear you say that; I thought foramina also.

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Depending on the position, some theropod vertebrae have holes ....a pleuroceol and foraminifera that may have eroded and look like puncture marks.

However, from the photos can't tell what the specimen is from. Dino, Pleisiosaur? Are the ends convex, concave or flat? Are any exterior edges at all porous as is honeycombed?

This is what the holes in a pre caudal Cretaceous theropod vertebra are like. Note, however, my specimen is Cretaceous...not sure about Jurassic Allosaurus material.

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Thanks for the replies. One end is concave and one is slightly convex, though it looks like it might have been a little eroded. It doesn't look all that porous (certainly not like that photo of the therapod vertebra. I have attached a few other photos if that helps..

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