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I found these two pieces on a gravel bar in the Pigeon River in North East Tennessee.

I think one is a Bear Tooth? I first thought that the pointed part was the tooth, and the white part was bone. Under a magnifying glass it looks like the white part is tooth, and the other is the root. Can't tell for sure. The area is an old sedimentry basin for an ocean that existed 200m - 146m years ago. I am thinking that maybe this is not that old.

The second piece is just strange. I saw about 500 gazillion pieces of identical smooth rock, and this one piece was the ONLY one that looked like this. It was so out of place. I have no idea what it is, but it is clearly different that everything else on that gravel bar.

Any help in identity/guessing age would be appreciated.

Barry Swope

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Both examples appear to be geologic in character. I'm not seeing a tooth. We have a several members familiar with the geology in Tennessee that may weigh in.

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Both appear to be fragments of metamorphic rock (probably schist) with veins of quartz.

Context is critical.

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The last one could be an arrow point (or perhaps a partially completed one). The edges looked worked. Is it hard enough to scratch glass?

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Context is critical.

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The last one could be an arrow point (or perhaps a partially completed one). The edges looked worked. Is it hard enough to scratch glass?

It's a Made in America Product, no doubt. I have hunted arrowheads for some time. I know very little about fossils, but i can promise you that an early native Alabamaian man made that point. Under magnification it has perfect tool marks from top to bottom. My brother actually found it near the Cahaba River in Trussville, Al recently. The picture does not do it justice. It is one of the best pieces I have seen lately. The style is classic for the area, and could be as old as 10,000 yrs.

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I think the piece that I found matches the front half of this tooth. I think the piece I have is actually half of a tooth. post-13520-0-04195100-1382478725.jpg

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I think the piece that I found matches the front half of this tooth. I think the piece I have is actually half of a tooth. attachicon.gifCaveBearTooth.jpg

I can see where one could be led to think that, but your specimen is not enamel and bone, it is quartz and stone, weathered to a suggestive shape.

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I can see where one could be led to think that, but your specimen is not enamel and bone, it is quartz and stone, weathered to a suggestive shape.

You could be right. If indeed this piece was never alive, then nature did an awesome job of fooling me. The piece that I have has a distinctive break mark on the back side, and the root has a triangle shape with identical scalloped faces. I am not yet fully convinced that it is not a fossil. I will try to post better pictures later.

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You could be right. If indeed this piece was never alive, then nature did an awesome job of fooling me. The piece that I have has a distinctive break mark on the back side, and the root has a triangle shape with identical scalloped faces. I am not yet fully convinced that it is not a fossil. I will try to post better pictures later.

He is correct. It isn't a fossil.

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looks like schist and pink quartzite.

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