New Members pilot789 Posted November 15, 2013 New Members Share Posted November 15, 2013 This fossil vertabrae was found at the base of the Gay Head cliffs of Aquinnah, Massachusetts, a Cretaceous, Miocene and Pleistocene outcropping thought to have been raised by the glacier. The Miocene marine vertabra commonly produced by these cliffs are much darker and more eroded which leads me to wonder whether this vertabra is from the Pleistocene era rather than Miocene. In which case it could be any number of megafauna or marine animals. Any ideas? My guess is shark, but a camel fossil was found hereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 It's a bony fish vertebra. Some of the fish-folks here may be able to id it more specifically. Rich 1 The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave pom Allen Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 looks like a possible large tuna or similar vert other here may be more specific 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members pilot789 Posted November 15, 2013 Author New Members Share Posted November 15, 2013 Thank you for the ID Rich and Dave. Must have been a big fish! Does a Pleistocene age look right or might it be Miocene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The vertebra does look like Thunnus (tuna). At Lee Creek in NC there is an abundance of tuna-like fossils available from the Pungo River (units 3 & 4) (Miocene) and Yorktown (unit 1) (Pliocene) Formations. So your specimen could be Miocene also. Marco Sr. 1 "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowsharks Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Agree with Marco. I have very similar verts from both Lee Creek and Calvert Cliffs and all were ID"d as Tuna verts by folks at the Smithsonian and Calvert Marine Museum. Daryl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhead9 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I have found dozens of whale vertebra at the Gay Head Cliffs, but none from fish. Also many seal bones and gastroliths. Edited November 15, 2013 by steelhead9 1 Still Life Fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I fully agree with Marco and Daryl, Tuna vert. I have several in my collection from the Lee Creek mine. 1 Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Thirded/fourthed - I reported a vertebra from the Pliocene of California as Thunnus with that same morphology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members pilot789 Posted November 17, 2013 Author New Members Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have found dozens of whale vertebra at the Gay Head Cliffs, but none from fish. Also many seal bones and gastroliths. The fish vertebra in my photo above seems less eroded than the usual Miocene whale and seal bones from the greensand deposits in the Gay Head cliffs, from which I inferred that perhaps it was younger in age. Although my (vague) memory is that I found it near a greensand deposit, since I have never seen a fish bone in the greensand, I thought it might be a younger fossil, perhaps out of the Aquinnah Conglomerate which I think dates back about 100,000 years. Does anyone have any research papers about the fossils in the Gay Head cliffs? I have searched online and found several from the 1800's and a major piece from 1934. I know Clifford Kaye studied and wrote about the cliffs more recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhead9 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 The fish vertebra in my photo above seems less eroded than the usual Miocene whale and seal bones from the greensand deposits in the Gay Head cliffs, from which I inferred that perhaps it was younger in age. Although my (vague) memory is that I found it near a greensand deposit, since I have never seen a fish bone in the greensand, I thought it might be a younger fossil, perhaps out of the Aquinnah Conglomerate which I think dates back about 100,000 years. Does anyone have any research papers about the fossils in the Gay Head cliffs? I have searched online and found several from the 1800's and a major piece from 1934. I know Clifford Kaye studied and wrote about the cliffs more recently. Once the vertebra are out of the greensand, they erode quickly as they dry, but if taken from the greensand they are often in similar condition to your fish vertebra. The yellow crust on the outside of the bone is typical of Gay Head greensand fossils. I have never found a fossil anywhere at Gay Head that did not come from the greensand, although I have read of pleistocene mammal bones having been found there in the past. Sadly, collecting at the cliffs is a thing of the past since the Wampanoag's took possession of them. Still Life Fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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