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Here are some of my finds from the last batch of matrix I received from jcbshark. This matrix is from the Hawthorn Group, Peace River Formation. I am completely blown away by the diversity of specimens that I find in matrix from his location.

If you place your cursor on a JPEG image you will see the file name which will have the specimen id as best that I can determine and the specimen size.

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I really like the cookie cutter teeth. I am still surprised by the number of them that are in the Creek matrix. The fish tooth is really interesting. I wonder what the Nebrius ate? Almost all of the fossil Nebrius that I have from the Eocene and Miocene have damage to the crown and especially the central cusp.

Marco Sr.

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Hi,

The 3rd pic on the 1st post looks like Lepidotes scale.

Coco

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I really like the cookie cutter teeth. I am still surprised by the number of them that are in the Creek matrix. The fish tooth is really interesting. I wonder what the Nebrius ate? Almost all of the fossil Nebrius that I have from the Eocene and Miocene have damage to the crown and especially the central cusp.

Marco Sr.

Marco,

The number of cookie cutters amazes me also! In this last batch I found (14) complete teeth and (9) partials. I don't know what they ate but I have only found (3) Nebrius teeth from this location and they are all dinged up. The Nebrius I find in matrix from Sacha are in much better condition campared to these.

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Hi,

The 3rd pic on the 1st post looks like Lepidotes scale.

Coco

Coco,

It does look similar but Lepidotes is Cretaceous and is much to old for this location. They are considered to be Lepisosteus aka Gar fish scales.

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Ah Ok, I didn't know the age of this area :blush:

Coco

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... I wonder what the Nebrius ate? Almost all of the fossil Nebrius that I have from the Eocene and Miocene have damage to the crown and especially the central cusp.

Marco Sr.

Marco, I often wonder the same thing about the Giant Mackerel (Otodus) teeth we find in MD; seems like 99.99% of them have some degree of crown/tip damage. I guess peanut butter and Jelly-fish sandwiches weren't in their diet :)

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Marco, I often wonder the same thing about the Giant Mackerel (Otodus) teeth we find in MD; seems like 99.99% of them have some degree of crown/tip damage. I guess peanut butter and Jelly-fish sandwiches weren't in their diet :)

Daryl.

Daryl

Not only crown/tip damage but also cusplet damage. It is really difficult to get a nice complete Otudus from MD. I believe that they must have been eating turtles as part of their diet. They may have also been eating some of the heavily scaled fish like gar although in 40 years of hunting Liverpool I've only found two gar scales and I don't find typically other armored scales. I wonder if they ate crocodiles?

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Nice assortment of fossils! I don't have any cookie cutter teeth in my collection. I might have to try to get some of this matrix and try my luck.

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Nice assortment of fossils! I don't have any cookie cutter teeth in my collection. I might have to try to get some of this matrix and try my luck.

There are so many cookie cutters in this matrix you would have to try to not find one.

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What type of matrix is this? Where would it be found?

This particular sample came from a very fossiliferous creek in Florida.

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Wow John,I'm glad you did so well! I like that little vert you found,that's in better condition than most I find.Are the Nebrius a type of Nurse shark?I ask because I found a tooth like that,but only one.I thought they were the rare ones to find.Thanks,Jeff

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Wow John,I'm glad you did so well! I like that little vert you found,that's in better condition than most I find.Are the Nebrius a type of Nurse shark?I ask because I found a tooth like that,but only one.I thought they were the rare ones to find.Thanks,Jeff

Jeff,

Yes, Nebrius is a type of Nurse Shark and they do not seem to be as common in your creek as they are in the Peace River matrix I get from forum member Sacha. I think the rarity of these teeth is simply due to thier small size since most would pass through the larger screens most people use when sifting in the creeks and rivers. I was suprised by the condition of that little vert too! I got really excited until I noticed it was missing one of the transverse processes. I really appreciate your efforts in collecting this matrix that provides me the opportunity to find and share these fossils.Hopefully you are finding lots of nice fossils in the Lee Creek matrix I sent you.

Regards,

John

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Those are killer John. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks you Rick! How has the hunting been in your area? I keep telling myself I need to get back to GMR but somethingalways seems to come up to change my plans.

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Jeff,

Yes, Nebrius is a type of Nurse Shark and they do not seem to be as common in your creek as they are in the Peace River matrix I get from forum member Sacha. I think the rarity of these teeth is simply due to thier small size since most would pass through the larger screens most people use when sifting in the creeks and rivers. I was suprised by the condition of that little vert too! I got really excited until I noticed it was missing one of the transverse processes. I really appreciate your efforts in collecting this matrix that provides me the opportunity to find and share these fossils.Hopefully you are finding lots of nice fossils in the Lee Creek matrix I sent you.

Regards,

John

Thank you John,and I'm glad that I'm able to help you micro hunters get your fix lol.I haven't had a chance to check the newest batch you sent me but if its anything like the first batch it was loaded!Thank you for that as well.

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John, great stuff. I have not had the chance to start searching the latest stuff I received from Jeff, but hope to soon.

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Thanks you Rick! How has the hunting been in your area? I keep telling myself I need to get back to GMR but somethingalways seems to come up to change my plans.

Been tough with all the rain and stuff. I did well today though.

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