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Offer Made To Buy (Crawfordville) Crinoid Beds, From Montgomery County, Indiana, Government


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Someone is asking the Montgomery County, Indiana,

Commissioners if they are willing to sell county

property along Sugar Creek that contain beds of

Crawfordville crinoids.

Go see:

Buyer seeks access to crinoid beds Journal

by Bob Cox, Review Online, April 12, 2014

http://www.journalreview.com/news/article_cb930b0e-c1cc-11e3-9f63-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.journalreview.com/news/article_cb930b0e-c1cc-11e3-9f63-0019bb2963f4.html?mode=print

There is a letter to the editor:

Durrett, D., 2014, Crinoids are rare, precious

resource. LETTERS: April 15, 2014,

Journal Review Online, April 15, 2014.

http://www.journalreview.com/opinion/article_491dc986-c3ff-11e3-ac62-0019bb2963f4.html

These crinoid beds contain Crawfordville crinoids.

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Sites/crinoidscrawfordsville/crawfordsvillecrinoidssite.htm

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Galleries/Crawfordsville_Crinoid_Gallery/Crawfordsville_crinoids.htm

A PDF file about Sugar Creek, Montgomery County is at:

http://www.sugarcreeknaturepark.com/education/Library/Introdcution%20to%20the%20Educators%20Guide.pdf

Yours,

Paul H.

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Well, it looks like they want to have a chat with the buyer before considering a sale. Bad idea to sell it off, IMHO. Better to develop it as a public site with free or fee access.

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I know the idividual wanting to buy the land, Dan Cooper (if they sell) he and his sons have an business of museum quality specimens -- American Trilobites. He is also involved with the MAPS board. Actually as far as I know several of the private sites along Sugar Creek are already quarrying specimens for sale (probably some of the ones listed above in lower links).

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WOW!!

Thanks for all the heads up from all my friends on this topic.

I stopped by Crawfordsville this spring to see if collecting was allowed at the old county home and they said it would have to be discussed. They also said the property has been rezoned industrial and they are in the process of developing the site for light industrial. I asked if they would be interested in selling property for the purpose of collecting crinoids. The commissioner said they would have to bring it up at the next meeting and they would let me know.

If someone doesn't step in and do something, this will be another classic site lost forever. I haven't made any offer to buy the property, but I would if the price was reasonable as should anyone with the means to do so.

Jim, I am VERY disappointed in your comments. I allow numerous people to all my sites and have an open invitation to all students and professors. The Penn Dixie club will be collecting Mt. Orab this weekend as a mater of fact. If you want to know about other locations I own, just ask Carl Brett, Ben Datillo, Steve Laduca, untold students and other collectors. I have donated THOUSANDS of dollars to help our hobby including airplane tickets for Carl Brett, Steve Laduca, and Tony Kramer to collect Utah on scientific studies. One of the outcomes of our trip was 2 papers published by Steve Laduca and Tony Kramer.

If you read a couple of Carl Brett's publications, you will see me listed in the acknowledgements under financial support and it wasn't just a $100!

As to the club auction this week, the Barrande book listed as Item #4 which I paid $100 for is one of hundreds of donations I have given to the club. All you have to do is ask anyone who goes to the club the numerous door prizes I have donated.

Please get your facts straight before publishing erroneous information like this!

Good Hunting

Dan Cooper

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I removed my posting and sent an apology to Dan--my posting was based on erroneous data. I apologize to the forum.

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I removed my posting and sent an apology to Dan--my posting was based on erroneous data. I apologize to the forum.

Thanks for your post.

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WOW!!

Thanks for all the heads up from all my friends on this topic.

I stopped by Crawfordsville this spring to see if collecting was allowed at the old county home and they said it would have to be discussed. They also said the property has been rezoned industrial and they are in the process of developing the site for light industrial. I asked if they would be interested in selling property for the purpose of collecting crinoids. The commissioner said they would have to bring it up at the next meeting and they would let me know.

If someone doesn't step in and do something, this will be another classic site lost forever. I haven't made any offer to buy the property, but I would if the price was reasonable as should anyone with the means to do so.

Jim, I am VERY disappointed in your comments. I allow numerous people to all my sites and have an open invitation to all students and professors. The Penn Dixie club will be collecting Mt. Orab this weekend as a mater of fact. If you want to know about other locations I own, just ask Carl Brett, Ben Datillo, Steve Laduca, untold students and other collectors. I have donated THOUSANDS of dollars to help our hobby including airplane tickets for Carl Brett, Steve Laduca, and Tony Kramer to collect Utah on scientific studies. One of the outcomes of our trip was 2 papers published by Steve Laduca and Tony Kramer.

If you read a couple of Carl Brett's publications, you will see me listed in the acknowledgements under financial support and it wasn't just a $100!

As to the club auction this week, the Barrande book listed as Item #4 which I paid $100 for is one of hundreds of donations I have given to the club. All you have to do is ask anyone who goes to the club the numerous door prizes I have donated.

Please get your facts straight before publishing erroneous information like this!

Good Hunting

Dan Cooper

Thanks for getting on Dan, I figured this would be a good deal but I did not know what the county was wanting to do, a loss if it is another industrial site. I wanted to post I knew you and of your fine operation. And the fact you are with MAPs and on the board. We need to keep this site open to collect not another lost site. I hope this works out would be neat to have a consortium of support to keep this as collecting site but I also know money speaks to cash strapped governments these days

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Hi everyone,

Since I am an Indiana resident I thought I would make a comment or two. In reality I'm finding that there are not that many places in Indiana for the general public to hunt fossils other than roadcuts (and the privilege of hunting roadcuts can end at any time). If a person is lucky he can find a land owner willing to share his property with you but this is becoming rare, mainly due to liability issues.

My point is that the Indiana government does not realize that we have some of the best fossil areas in the world and that they are being permanently lost to everyone through development.

Southern Indiana has dozens of abandoned rock quarries, nearly all are prime areas for public fossil parks but no attempt is made by state or local officials to develop any of them as parks. Fossil hunting pretty much doesn't exist in the state, county or local political world of Indiana.

These aren't comments on what Dan is wanting to do, just comments concerning Indiana.

And Dan, I hope you remain active on TFF to share your knowledge and also photos of the beautiful specimens you prepare in your shop.

Jed

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  • 6 years later...

Since this old thread has been resurrected, is there any news about the fate of the property with the crinoid beds?  Was Dan, or anyone else with a paleontological bent, able to secure ownership or long-term access?

 

Don

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50 minutes ago, minnbuckeye said:

Hello Dan,

 

 

This might be better sent via PM or email.  ;) 

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@Fossildude19 I thought Dan had purchased the property. Otherwise, thanks for the warning! I deleted the content that was meant to be pm'ed to Dan.

  

Mike

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