Scramblered Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I found this in Joshua Creek this past weekend. I first thought it was a dolphin tooth but jcbshark thought otherwise. After comparing it to my other dolphin teeth I agree that it might be something else. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) That is from a mammal carnivore. It's not the canine tooth either, its most likely a premolar from a coyote. Let me reference a few skulls. Edited May 20, 2014 by fossilized6s ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calhounensis Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) I would lean towards an incisor. Edited May 20, 2014 by calhounensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I know exactly which mammal this tooth came from --- because Bobby Bossee identified it. This is a rare tooth for SS Florida. http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/38941-i-want-to-id-as-porpoise-but/?hl=harbor#entry427716 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lissa318 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Congrats on a fabulous find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramblered Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thank you Jack, that linked thread is very informative. I am going to post another tooth that looks similar but is bigger and I thought it was dolphin. I will need to take pictures of it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramblered Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Thank you lissa318! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 10:13 PM I would lean towards an incisor. I think I agree with Calhounesis . . . my impression is incisor. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm thinking pinniped - it isn't spatulate like a porpoise, but rather has a marked basal cingulum and a pointed cusp above that. Let's see what Bobby has to say! The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramblered Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Here are the other teeth that I thought were dolphin. I included the unknown one as well for scale and comparison. Two of them have worn tips while that one has a very pointed end. The roots look different than the unknown tooth. Are all of these other teeth dolphin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Here are a couple of possibilities. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This is inseparable from the first (upper or lower) premolar of numerous pinnipeds and terrestrial carnivores. Given the well developed carinae/cristae on the tooth crown, I'd lean towards terrestrial carnivore. It's likely not cetacean because of the retention of a strong lingual cingulum (generally absent or reduced in most Cetacea) and a small hypoconid cusp on the posterior heel of the crown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Thanks, Bobby. Just on the basis of a "feeling" I lean toward pinniped, but with no solid evidence. It would have to be labeled "Carnivora, indet." Rich The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I referenced my skull collection and couldn't find a match of premolars with this size. Even black bear didn't match. So i would say Pinniped or even Wolf. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Hey Caleb, pretty sweet find! It was a good trip. Congrats! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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